On Sat, Sep 03, 2011 at 04:51:49PM -0400, [email protected] wrote 4.3K bytes in 
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: My understanding is that the issue is common to all 'secured' web
: sites.   HTTP is trivially subverted; HTTPS needs a valid cert or the
: user clicking past a "No, I don't care about my security; go there
: anyway" warning before it can be subverted.

Just a fine point here, treat SSL as encryption between you and
something on the other end, not as authentication of the other end (nor
you if have client certs installed).

-- 
Andrew
pgp key: 0x74ED336B
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