On 12/19/2011 08:59 PM, Andrew Lewman wrote: > On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 21:02:37 -0600 > Joe Btfsplk <[email protected]> wrote: >> Under current US & other nations' laws, it's possible that gov'ts >> have already forced developers of any software - incl. Tor - to put >> in backdoors. And in fact, say it's illegal for the devs of any >> software to outright disclose such. > > https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en#Backdoor. If we're forced > to put one in someday, we'll make it obvious and loud that it is so. > The world will be in a sad state if this comes true. A forced backdoor > in Tor will be the least of your problems. >
No Backdoors. No bugdoors. No so-called "lawful interception" systems. As another person working on Tor - I'll be more direct and less ambiguous: If anyone ever even *tries* to force us to insert a backdoor, we'd tell the world. We won't every compromise the security of Tor and we will never insert a backdoor. Never. We must reject these so-called "compromises" for so-called "lawful interception" and we must fight against their deployment everywhere. They are harmful to everyone - including those that use them legitimately - just ask the Greek phone operator who was suicided after the Great Greek Vodafone Backdoor was found. >> I don't know that it has happened w/ Tor, but it certainly has in >> other cases. If you want true anonymity, don't use the internet, > > I parse this as the 'abstinence model of Internets'. It doesn't work for > sex education, addictive substances, and it's unlikely to work for > anyone in a modern society. We need a better answer than 'all or > nothing'. We're trying to make Tor one of these better answers. > Indeed. The abstinence model is a punt. That model claims that the world exists outside of the internet and for most people it does not. It's also a claim that the "non-internet" world offers "true anonymity" and it does not. All the best, Jacob _______________________________________________ tor-talk mailing list [email protected] https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
