On 4/20/13 12:30 PM, Sebastian G. <bastik.tor> wrote: > Hi Karsten, > > 20.04.2013 11:19, Karsten Loesing: >> Hi Sebastian, >> >> On 4/20/13 11:06 AM, Sebastian G. <bastik.tor> wrote: > [...] >>> Does Atlas support looking for bridges and if so how has the search >>> query to be formated? >> >> Atlas does not yet support looking for bridges. See #6320. > > Glad that I didn't bookmark the ticket. Sad that it doesn't support it.
Yes, but there's hope! >>> Atlas itself says "Atlas is a web application to discover Tor relays and >>> bridges." which is true for relays. >> >> You're right, it's lying about being able to discover bridges. > > How can Atlas or the website lie on their own? ;) (don't reply to this > kind of sarcastic question) :) >>> "The historical data of the bridges bandwidth usage is available in >>> graph form." It doesn't work for me. >>> >>> First I require knowledge about bridges, and onionoo knows them: >>> https://onionoo.torproject.org/details?type=bridge >> >> See Onionoo's protocol specification for details to query bridge data. >> Onionoo supports everything that's necessary for Atlas to show bridge >> information. It's just not in a human-friendly format. > > Querying Onionoo isn't that user friendly. The summary is understandable > to me, the bandwidth document is not. Well it was never made for > users/operators to look at. > >>> Looking for (exact) nickname or hashed fingerprint (or both) returns: >>> "No Results found! No Tor bridges or relays matched your query :(" >>> >>> The backend can't handle "nickname" and returns an error. >> >> Well, the back-end can handle bridge nicknames. It's just that Atlas >> can't make use of returned bridge information yet. > > It can handle nickname, but doesn't like "nickname" (with quotes ""). Oh, true. >>> Sure Atlas is in beta, but either it is not implemented or I'm doing >>> something wrong, or both. >> >> Having bridge support in Atlas would be awesome! Want to submit a patch? > > Indeed it would be awesome to have support for bridges. Wanting and > being able to are to different animals (two different pairs of shoes, > for the Germans). > > JavaScript and CSS are code, too. There might be the possibility that I > understand what it does in general, but it appears to be unlikely that I > understand what it does in detail or that I could reproduce it. It is > also another step from reproducing something to successfully changing > something or building something new. > > When I'm providing a patch Atlas might even show the real IP addresses > of bridges even if Onionoo doesn't have them. ;) No worries about that in particular. Onionoo uses data that is publicly available, which includes sanitized bridge descriptors. > If I could do that I'd provide patches for various things and review > code. Remember ticket 6147, the solution looks easy, I wouldn't have > found that solution. The patch looks like it's going to work, but I > couldn't tell. > > (I might be repeating my lack of coding skill over and over, sorry for > me repeating myself.) Sorry for trying again and again and again. :) At some point, you'll say "what the hack, maybe coding is not magic at all, it's a weekend, the weather isn't particularly good, let me just try this!" > Out of curiosity what kind of code (JS, CSS, Python) would need to be > changed? This information might make it easier for others reading this > thread to say "Oh, I can write $language and do what has to be done." Just JavaScript, no CSS, no Python. Here's the repo: https://gitweb.torproject.org/atlas.git Happy to review patches! :) Best, Karsten >> Thanks, >> Karsten > Thank you for your reply. Thank you in advance for the second reply. > > I'm not going to reply unless there's something requiring me to. > > Best, > Sebastian > _______________________________________________ tor-talk mailing list [email protected] https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
