On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 10:58 PM, adrelanos <[email protected]> wrote:
> David Huerta: > > Hey all, > > > > I've put together a guide on how to use Mumble (TCP only!) with Tor if > > anyone would find that sort of thing handy: > > > http://huertanix.tumblr.com/post/55261352264/location-anonymous-voice-communication-a-step-by-step > . > > Thanks for doing that. Seems you're good at writing tutorials. Maybe we > can share/remix? Under which license is your tutorial? > > Just added a CC-BY 3.0 badge to the post, feel free to remix/share/sell/etc. > Some time ago I wrote about anonymous Voip as well, although its a bit > Whonix specific, since the confidence of not leaking anything comes from > the Whonix design. Many other points are portable though, it also > includes using Voip clients/ZRTP. > > I recommended using a hidden service as mumble server. > > https://whonix.org/wiki/Voip > > A mumble server as a hidden instance is something I thought about but I couldn't figure out where to start at the time. Glad there's some documentation on it though, I'll take a look! A few friends of mine have been experimenting with mumble over tor a lot so we'd definitely be interested in spending some time trying out a Whonix mumble hidden service setup. > > * Assuming it can be detected after being filtered/optimized to a pulp, > > the hum of the mains frequency of the electrical grid might tip off > > which country you're in based in. > > Yes, and a voice recording of yours leads straight to you (voice > recognition)? I assume the voice of every person has made a > non-anonymous call and been sampled at least once (PRISM), probable a > sane assumption. Comparing that with a voice sample from the anonymous > server, and its no longer anonymous. > > In conclusion, I think the only safe use cases for Voip or Tor are > location hiding while not being anonymous; hiding who is talking to > whom; and talking to people you trust while hiding that you are talking > to them and your locations from outside observers. > That's roughly what I meant by location-anonymity, but I realize I never really explained the term in my post; I've added an addendum to the post which explains that and lists potential issues mentioned here and in the HeatSync Labs mailing list. -- david [.dh] huerta davidhuerta.me -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.18 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org mQENBFDlBaMBCADDRmcSL+YpVzawcjwCtm61lQT32VILEPE3o9mZMAfKlYiEtfJY 8r4ggOCdWRoqglPUGOoTSANsQfahxxmyLylFz1D9iNerx9/23iQ8hcFcokoOAdwA fhmNHEdkgyQg9Lyy5KcfGsrzJyxd7SBwMOvbRGudWpuA0+Dp84sQXTxHawp/LUVU G+zCrrc39jeyHWVLdNESxXCW7nOSRe/jU92/PiMTS0VAYZuHE9j93bH37JjLvXZx MgozTZImBxB9SmvT8ztuU1BS9jdmtO9/XD/XjWdvdbWS7z6fjambB8zWWAOkQvz/ TbCeaIVqYEaQspDaAs4jhdzfpRYRUAfk20cpABEBAAG0IkRhdmlkIEh1ZXJ0YSA8 aHVlcnRhbml4QGdtYWlsLmNvbT6JAT8EEwECACkFAlD9jbgCGyMFCQlmAYAHCwkI BwMCAQYVCAIJCgsEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRA11ya9rgnzKGv1CACBZzhAEGpA5IAB k58CbcDJ4hXg8OSoay24SNi7jdCemp0CEbr1EhHGw3s05sUExl/KRgeQxgazvXtk +Y0ynyguA39U+nu/kkRVhB7vNPXj2GKdcsO9cw92KmCcRhKZiYL3OEAiGXYa/kvl 6YqXxzbw7oshcceDmSAKctsiBHhS/zwpdb4Co1v260H8HXAf+tsDPbkZHVRSNX/V PyhxQFtnFvdEiLE6D6hsMXJWAvNBoeaGb/xaQnU9Elu0JqY+n2372oc2F9ZYsg/D WcwcKb5SkucyXnlph8AXTx3SCTISVVN95Pj8anv2Z1XwKV0iM+K3dp/v0bWsIvRq 07ZFT/hKtCREYXZpZCBIdWVydGEgPGh1ZXJ0YW5peEBvcGVudGlsLmNvbT6JAUIE EwECACwCGyMFCQlmAYAHCwkIBwMCAQYVCAIJCgsEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAUCUP2N2gIZ AQAKCRA11ya9rgnzKBPcB/4ltGkLGpzhH+4OxI+zRk7qRnF3sFLYJUh/VUSSDU8l Bu8eEYPol1DJ/MGIKqZytvLC6kvevHBRGT3YpEWJ3q97Iqvzpg52RftN8IZpN8dQ 6L8Tr1DLCcIl+F3J0rHBxrU54pXBlPpeo2Yppv2nGo+plFwKkg711A4ZJIUSaG6V hmslIovxoUxo4F0QyRNZ9dPqCzzTP63xJCgh0Ez+WVT8gaan1iE4Ck4xlEH6vMZB 8tVjXx0tCYPyNRwl0DDXkIfX+9s92stIQVDt4srNKcu6yjjQs7f+0UiULotZ3fKX skykx4wBk59BT92VQwBM/tFxgf+p0BLcbasFhCpfTNepiQE/BBMBAgApBQJQ5QWj AhsjBQkJZgGABwsJCAcDAgEGFQgCCQoLBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQNdcmva4J8yj6 /gf/f4lSeMMK3yHLxcRQ7vqHJ+TrWCh62AxTHbbabnozGaug42ekZUJWqf+O97DT TpKRhknaTleXWontnotIdHcv/ciFM85SSlO2+k3jouxnyPEIP45wgabAAG55zUZ4 lUGH9z4OZo0j/OuxfTj/EWc1AciuJAONd5Cz6wFpbPMQ4811cB7IrDKPd5pTOe7M B+Y3SpWo95i0DWWeoa3MfXoBUjTjF8c79ZRel+M/9Qxqi9GkD+NWrJbSh1G9Rrkf 4FXFDO2tYadsnXV8+PnR0hoHXHoXSpWQzmbNhYa/OZOhPdgqAuOKTgAoT8rR9ELq vSHsuacDQOli8WqWd/IR4Szi8rkBDQRQ5QWjAQgA0oAIKM8AFYqHIrQocHmTGR/j YybKQ41u+RUkrhzQPGm9lNSIR7MdD+DEwyEPeZLezNzuUk/huA2eZrjI7P/6aire 0CtUePzkrY93/OuDS5Tb9FtduyclCFMVm+OlOkMjBiqUofQsei4mB6FLKKtKRdiH 0jng3UUkTbJY7iAlKannKBWtsuDCTQuguLh1+Z9bQmINiKSefYgYGJgCklhvYahc kX/NKnisepYOwiCldwvbGs6ify962qG14xPf1y/Q4dSCxgSjzLdXDxpp90XEZNiT 5YATzZrPJUrcFZX8/ep6I0COtIE+FnjMDKQ2VLCbC8lOJDcTtJdzXUIALrL69wAR AQABiQElBBgBAgAPBQJQ5QWjAhsMBQkJZgGAAAoJEDXXJr2uCfMoxs0H/j9YpD4m urSQZh8d6yQahM57sxmqBNer4YyZqHzNBVt6jUJ60wM90Yfn2m7mGjcD/GK6/fLq PzLv3VsQmMM+aVcCRGiFR5P/bLx5/t90PAgprrA7/ld3g0yN+5TGkI/fdOXQmApl bnKDy1q9a9CmtD5M+cOU7adIMEI8ymW2t2Cnw/aTEDNIss/eg2IcfvqirgkBuqw4 TtYAZiMhY38zifjTu0n2aUcKv64K4PGZVklo3BWdqN3bpt2cviB/kQCC/9JZNmqs WfZkK1q9rzo0wkJKTCAtmYYGDzOTYHDCXcOaviexnnq2+DDdfngcu1YpBclf2S4P J9HbchaaZTsCADw= =mmiq -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- _______________________________________________ tor-talk mailing list [email protected] https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
