Not a joke. I thought we were talking about TBB. Tor secures all traffic you send through it. In reality though wouldn't a secure VPN with no logs be just as safe? On Aug 27, 2013 8:19 AM, "mirimir" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 08/27/2013 11:43 AM, Nathan Suchy wrote: > > > It goes through a guard, middle, and exit node which does not anything > > about each other than the next and last hop. It is by far more secure. > Its > > probably secure enough for anything. Even illegal speech. It should keep > > you safe. > > Is that a joke? > > Did you notice Roger Dingledine's comment: "From what I heard (it's > Windows-only so I haven't tried running it or decompiling it to find > out what it is really), it includes Foxyproxy, configured to only go > through Tor for a select set of sites that are commonly censored. > The rest of the sites bypass Tor." > > Are you claiming that PirateBrowser in fact uses Tor for everything? > > > On Aug 27, 2013 2:46 AM, "mirimir" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> On 08/26/2013 11:08 PM, Roger Dingledine wrote: > >> > >>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 05:58:22PM -0500, Missouri Anglers wrote: > >>>> I downloaded and installed "PirateBrowser" which is a Firefox > >>>> browser configured to use vidalia/tor. > >>> > >>> Not quite -- it is a bundle that includes a variety of software > >>> including Firefox, Vidalia, and Tor, configured in the way they > >>> wanted to configure it. > >>> > >>> Specifically, don't be confused into thinking this is a Tor product, > >>> or that it will keep you safe in some particular way. > >>> > >>> In fact, they even have a disclaimer saying that it's not an > >>> anonymity tool. And in this case that's not just a disclaimer, it's > >>> an accurate statement. > >> > >> That's true, but their disclaimer > >> <http://piratebrowser.ca/faq_piratebrowser.html> is still extremely > >> misleading: > >> > >>> Does it make me surf the net anonymously? > >>> > >>> No, Pirate Browser is not intended to be a TOR Browser, while it uses > >>> the Tor network, which is designed for anonymous surfing, this > >>> browser is ONLY intended to circumvent censorship. The Tor network is > >>> used to help route around the censoring / blocking of websites your > >>> government doesn't want you to know about. > >>> > >>> If you are looking for something more secure you may want to try a > >>> VPN like PrivacyIO. > >> > >> They could have at least pointed people at TBB! > >> > >>>> I assume this is simply just a browser set up to use an anonymous > >>>> proxy? > >>> > >>> From what I heard (it's Windows-only so I haven't tried running it > >>> or decompiling it to find out what it is really), it includes > >>> Foxyproxy, configured to only go through Tor for a select set of > >>> sites that are commonly censored. The rest of the sites bypass Tor. > >> > >> That should be clearly stated in the summary under "Search" at the top > >> of <http://piratebrowser.ca/>. What they're doing is totally reckless. > >> > >>>> I am not exactly a beginner when it comes to using anonymous > >>>> proxies. I have been gathering proxy lists, scanning them with > >>>> software to see if they are valid/anonymous and configuring my > >>>> browser to use them for years. However I am no expert. > >>>> > >>>> This Vidalia/Tor has me confused. > >>> > >>> Again, please remember this is somebody else's program, called > >>> Pirate Browser, and not anything made by Tor. Though it does include > >>> tools written by Tor, but tools-written-by-Tor only perform the way > >>> Tor had in mind if you configure them that way. > >>> > >>>> The program loads, connects to the Tor network and everything looks > >>>> and acts well. However when I check my stats at various websites > >>>> that I use such as (http://www.lagado.com/proxy-test) my IP address > >>>> is revealed along with my ISP amd other accurate information. > >>>> > >>>> I also checked https://check.torproject.org/ and it says that it is > >>>> not working. > >>> > >>> That sounds compatible with my Foxyproxy theory above. > >>> > >>> Hope that helps, --Roger > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> tor-talk mailing list - [email protected] > >> To unsusbscribe or change other settings go to > >> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > >> > > -- > tor-talk mailing list - [email protected] > To unsusbscribe or change other settings go to > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > -- tor-talk mailing list - [email protected] To unsusbscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
