-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Thanks for yuour response, I'm very glad that the topic is not ignored.
> The discussion "Tor needs a forum" is old. I would never advocate for a forum! Forums are dreadful for a multitude of objective reasons. My messages are wordy enough, so I'll skip 7 paragraphs on why forums are bad. :-) > phpbb I'm (100-\epsilon)% sure /that/ would be a total waste of time & effort, for example. > q/a style forum on stackexchange: > https://tor.stackexchange.com/ > [...] > Bad choice, since hosted on a third party page. Bad for privacy reasons. That's precisely the kind of reasoning I attack. What exactly is the concern? That they would tamper with answers? That they can close someday? That it's easy to get your identity exposed there? They won't do the first because that involves huge risks, and they are less likely to close due to them being commercially successful. Tor, as the company, is more likely to close. (And mirroring is always a good practice.) Last but not least, there's nothing wrong with letting everyone know that you're an active Tor user. Actually, this should be encuraged: if only it became a common practice, both blockings and cop assaults on the grounds of so-called “suspicious traffic activity” would reduce, if not disappear entirely. We just got a bit unlucky that it wasn't the way Internet worked from the very beginning. Tor is all about third parties interacting without assumptions of initial trust to each other! Why doesn't this great idea echo in participants, I'm clueless of. StackExchange doesn't make you register. Sometimes I see people even posting Q's anonymously. Now, there may be an additional stigma on it due to the fact that Sir Silk Road got caught at StackOverflow. But he, unfortunately, made a security mistake himself (nothing protects people from one of these, except for themselves). Yes, this company, being a big and legal one, collaborates with badged&armed people. Lots of people do. Lots of Tor users might do that as well in certain circumstances, but we're still supposed to collaborate with each other in a network. Because that's the point: security is about trust, and IT security is largely about collaborating without much of an estabilished scheme of trust. We can implement it on the TCP/IP level, why won't we do that at other levels as well? > Also constant risk of getting that page deleted. > […] not fulfilling the in my opinion irrational "beta requirements" That risk is the part of what makes SE so damn good. They are as successful at building quality content available to anyone as it gets for the last 20 (?) years, so I just don't want to judge their beta requirements. MathOverflow is extremely active, while Theoretical Physics died at beta stage. Nobody can explain why: mathematicians, esp. those in domains dominating at MO, are usually percieved as more socially awkward than any other scientists, and yet there is a difference. Nobody really knows how communities get estabilished but SE has something besides statistics: they got results, and they reproduce them over and over again, with topics you'd never thought they could. https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/ I'd let them do whatever they think is neccessary. I didn't expect myself to turn this message into SE advocacy. But the more I think of it, the better option it looks. It is de facto the best way of gathering factual content, *and* build a community, if not a general one, but definitely an “expert community” — which is also helpful for amateurs. I'll probably ask more questions there. In conclusion, I claim that investment in SE is, while somewhat risky, is also potentially a good choice. The expected value is very high. > askbot hosted on torproject.org wouldn't be worse than stackexchange Thanks for the info, I'll take a look. I don't claim knowing the best way to do it, I just think SE managers know one. :-) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.21 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTekZRAAoJEFrbru/Rghxv4pAH/Az9FZhXSZSqNsq1Chpq28eP qumJ5uRtbIYksQLjbo9u2KqSNSnoQf8QDc2hViGDNOvJCLmgr7RjltF74lnsWNfQ I2XTOXSzda56lmPCLC0Mn2QrCMcWVgPIpZjTefquKQFaOSeDH/mlYOxDQlh7Hl2t xi/pdEQFuvWQM8wEcAqgqb/BBi6h1iyYZu9h73zgTeYA5zq5KafC6C0rpGCt97RL WmH8zkZsLl2ZMPzxXmQe5FQFMZuABlH7v8J2aTC8p0l1oFSGUPurHGSQWN5+jKbr sQXgUbEKIQWmQVgxqf2luCVKBHX7ofFLvevjm+tqZ2DZaXq84hZTvMeg7AD48wM= =uFcv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- tor-talk mailing list - [email protected] To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
