-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Thanks Cristopher. Same situation here in old Europe. I am German, and our surveillance service BND (= Bundesnachrichtendienst) does exactly the same. In Frankfurt we have got the world's biggest internet-hub, the DE-CIX (Continental Europe, Eastern-Europe, Near East ...). And guess who is wiretapping and analysing /the whole traffic/? Correctly, the BND. (1)(2) From 2004 to 2007 an unknown amount of raw internet and telephone traffic was forwarded directly to the NSA, only the data from Germans was filtered. (3) This measure was stopped because our respected government (the circa 5 people who knew that, /not/ the control comitee of the parliament) came to the conclusion that it became too delicate. Well, actually the Greeks read the newspapers and think that mass surveillance by the Germans is a bad idea. (4)
I am sure that every serious secret service in the world runs such and similar programs. => We do not deal with an American "NSA problem". We deal with a worldwide surveillance problem! 1) https://netzpolitik.org/2014/trotz-vorlaeufigem-scheitern-der-klage-in-leipzig-neue-erkenntnisse-bnd-ueberwachte-2010-196-laender-auch-die-usa https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&sl=de&tl=en&u=https://netzpolitik.org/2014/trotz-vorlaeufigem-scheitern-der-klage-in-leipzig-neue-erkenntnisse-bnd-ueberwachte-2010-196-laender-auch-die-usa 2) http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/auch-bnd-schoepft-internationalen-datenverkehr-ab-13003379.html https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/auch-bnd-schoepft-internationalen-datenverkehr-ab-13003379.html 3) http://www.sueddeutsche.de/digital/geheimdienst-kooperation-gedraenge-am-daten-drehkreuz-1.2016514 https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.sueddeutsche.de/digital/geheimdienst-kooperation-gedraenge-am-daten-drehkreuz-1.2016514 4) http://www.tanea.gr/news/greece/article/5131175/pws-h-germania-parakoloythei-toys-ellhnes-mesw-internet https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&sl=el&tl=en&u=http://www.tanea.gr/news/greece/article/5131175/pws-h-germania-parakoloythei-toys-ellhnes-mesw-internet - -- no.thing_to-hide at cryptopathie dot eu 0x30C3CDF0, RSA 2048, 24 Mar 2014 0FF8 A811 8857 1B7E 195B 649E CC26 E1A5 30C3 CDF0 Bitmessage (no metadata): BM-2cXixKZaqzJmTfz6ojiyLzmKg2JbzDnApC On 06/07/14 16:50, C B wrote: > And yet countless times we were lied to and said no there is no > way to read any of the e-mail messages - only meta data is being > collected, there is no "button" to press to see the message. What a > lie. There is no button, because everything is being collected. > > As an American I would like to see NSA completely shut down. All > persons, "foreigners" and "Americans" have the same right to > privacy, and it is a crime for the NSA to be collecting Internet > traffic from everyone. It is clear that Abbottabad and Umar Patek > could have just as easily been captured using local police work > without intercepting one byte of Internet traffic. This needs to > end. But in the meantime, all traffic needs to be encrypted and > anonymized so that none of it can be intercepted and used. All > telephone calls, all e-mail, all text messages - all electronic > messages need to be encrypted. > > > -- Christopher Booth > > ________________________________ From: > "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> To: > [email protected] Sent: Sunday, July 6, 2014 9:16 AM > Subject: Re: [tor-talk] washingtonpost.com: In NSA-intercepted > data, those not targeted far outnumber the foreigners who are > > > > Quote from SIGINT Raw data: > > "Im putting all my pride aside just to say that i will miss you > dearly and your the only person that i really allowed myself to get > close to after losing my ex husband, my dad and my brother.. Im > glad it was so easy for you to move on and put what we had aside > and for me well Im just soo happy i met you. You will always remain > in my heart. I know you left for a purpose it hurts like hell > sometimes not because Im needy but because i wish i could have been > with you." > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTuXZ/AAoJEMwm4aUww83wuZUH/3cQYPmUI33bzVwZ8xub9ZJw DDOcma2ZoOgzSJMNfb92NSSiIxcnexOicRaxDLTw3NS+9M1QRthM3UFcF5e7leVX xvL6HU8E/Fp/Ic0B+tpX1KSEXwA5dSJcMMmTlt2UzMdBfFfeK/P8483Df5eZ4+xf v1Pxui75HS9Es0TeJpllJdPK925747/8/o9EDZYx5lU+L7XgZZiAXZSzoGrBHFPn 9zW09T0ytkVfK1V7O3CDr+FWCFZF/ViRVE5oksXk7GrWWUeSHCJDYKAGnyBYRKGx du3zFwBsznoxMC+Pm+hVmkR5SS6AEr6PuiiDc3ycgGNiiIYsq0fhjZjuelmiWOI= =SnmP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- tor-talk mailing list - [email protected] To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
