To Zenaan : I havn't enough grasp on english language (i have a hell of time to debunk sarcastics comment in my own language, let alone english) to determine if you are backing me or are pushing me into the cliff.
Anyway, I back you on your description of the situation. A few 'genuine members' (everyone in here is tor dev ?) are slowing down tor development, by making the possibility of a move out of sight. Friend ! \o/ Isn't out there tor forks with enough peers ? Le jeudi 30 juillet 2015, Zenaan Harkness <[email protected]> a écrit : > On 7/30/15, Alexandre Guillioud <[email protected] > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > Guy, this could be reversed. > > Tor has limitations ? Make a pretty infographics on the subject and move > > on. > > It's not by using these kind of "epistomologique" principle that you'll > > educate the mass. > > > > My point is you are putting your head into the oven by doing what you do > : > > you don't want to teach, you want to impress with pretty words. > > > > My question was, what do you mean by controlled opposition ? > > Answer you gived me was "there is no proof but you know, i'm sure they > are > > doing it ! Follow me, trust me, i said it". > > Easy words definitely +1. > > My take on 'controlled opposition' is that TOR effectively collects > most/ many of the "Snowden's" of the world who might be considered > "USA opposition". By collecting them onto one network, the "important > targets", although mixed with not important targets, are collected > into one technology and therefore much easier to identify - correlate > TOR users with ISP sign up accounts. > > Years ago a friend coined the term the FOG - the False Oppositional > Group. In many cases of community issues here in Australia, one or two > people "offer" to "lead" a committee to "fix the community problem", > and we have seen time after time, these self-proclaimed leaders get > the large initial group on a tread mill of ineffective tasks and > activities - like writing letters to parliament, like walking down the > main street of their local town, like ringing the radio station, and > endless more tasks which achieve absolutely nothing. > > This FOG committee then also belittles ideas which might have traction > (e.g. class action lawsuit, civil disobedience) telling their group > "oh that can't work" and similar. Over time, the people in the > community who are active (but ineffective direction activity set by > "saviour" committee) initially, die away (leave the group, stop > participating), since no progress is ever made. > > This is extremely effective tactic by e.g. developers who want to > develop seaside foreshore multi billion $ developments, significantly > blocking the surrounding property owner's significant sea views. In > three years, 500 people is reduced to about 5 "hard core" genuine > people, by the 5 "False Oppositional Group" committee members. More > details available but already probably too much. > -- > tor-talk mailing list - [email protected] <javascript:;> > To unsubscribe or change other settings go to > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > -- tor-talk mailing list - [email protected] To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
