On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 09:44:55AM -0400, Nathaniel Suchy wrote: > On 2016-08-28 02:18, Andreas Krey wrote: > >On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 13:25:58 +0000, carlo von lynX wrote: > >... > >>I still don't understand why you guys hang out on a public surveilled > >>IRC network where each line you type goes straight into XKEYSCORE. > > > >Because user management? When you change the irc channels to > >something secured you have a lot to do with managing the user > >list while it only takes one account to slip through to still > >get recorded at NSA. And you lose the occasional lurkers > >that may actually contribute in some form later. > > You make a good point. As Dave said "Is it any different than > participating in a public surveilled mailing > list?" I don't see a difference. The NSA can and probably does look > at both.
Not can. Not look. Just store, forever. Of course also the mailing list, but a mailing list isn't a place where you smalltalk, speak about food, world view, relationships and where to go out tonight. Even if you use side channels or /msg, it all ends up in the big tank unless you employ plenty of OTR. OTOH I understand that Torproject has no perspective of anything being private any longer, so Andreas has a point. Torproject is a target, not a victim of bulk surveillance. -- tor-talk mailing list - [email protected] To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
