On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 04:18:32PM +0100, J B wrote:

FFS this is not news it is well know and established that TOR was a US
research project largely between US NRL (naval research lab) and MIT:


Also most research funding in the US at the time was through Defence
budgets.  That may still be the case but the size and importance of
private corporate funding has been increasing (not sure that's morally

If you read anything about TOR it is clearly dual (or poly) use with
many conflicting even adversarial user groups BY DESIGN.

This is why Open Source works looks at it have lots of people look at
it, if anyone finds a back door or weak spot then we can talk about
vast conspiracies but honestly any privacy service would be an NSA
target (and foreign equivalents), public code review isn't perfect
things can be hidden or missed but it's the best you've got.

Do you think governments don't infiltrate "grass roots" orgnaizations
or something? The NSA can submit code to any opensource project
without revealing they are the source.  Closed source is worse because
you'll never see and honestly any product could be wholly the work of
an intelligence agency front company.

Be suspicious as you like but there's never been a secret about who
started and funded this.

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