Hi Israel, Nico,

1) I have no opinion one way or the other about the suggested wallpapers; I'm 
not very good at judging what is artistically pleasing one way or the other; 
although I will just say that a refreshed wallpaper maybe a good idea over the 
one we've had for a long while now.

2) Is it absolutely a requirement to still now produce a CD-sized iso?  If it 
still is, then can the tarball be removed and downloaded at install time?  Just 
a thought.

Regards,
Jack
________________________________
From: Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com>
Sent: 04 April 2018 10:08 AM
To: Cinque Port Computers; Israel; torios- dev; torios
Subject: Re: [Torios] [Torios-dev] ToriOS 2.0 background

Hi Jack,

Please tell us what you think about

1. The suggested wallpaper(s).

2. How to balance between size and completeness of the ISO file:

---
Aside from that changing the size by KiB is not going to do much, we
need to reduce it by MiB.  Systemd really made our footprint balloon
pretty substantially, and make some things more complicated and not work
as well... but... it is what it is :)  I will again try to limit the
size of everything in the newer ISO, however I may have to dig deeper
and look for things that I can get rid of, and see if I can shrink the
tarball pretty substantially, OR

a.) rework the live system to be extremely bare bones (text only) for a
special CD sized ISO.

b.) make an ISO with the tarball NOT included so it can be kept on a USB
to install to keep it CD sized.
---

Best regards
Nio

Den 2018-04-04 kl. 09:38, skrev Cinque Port Computers:
> Hi Nio,
>
> I'm not sure or clear on what you want us others to pass an opinion on;
> I'm confused.
>
> Regards,
> Jack
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Torios
> <torios-bounces+jackdtrice=outlook....@lists.launchpad.net> on behalf of
> Nio Wiklund <nio.wikl...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* 04 April 2018 8:07 AM
> *To:* Israel; torios- dev; torios
> *Subject:* Re: [Torios] [Torios-dev] ToriOS 2.0 background
> Den 2018-04-03 kl. 23:21, skrev Israel:
>> On 04/03/2018 11:36 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
>>> Den 2018-04-03 kl. 15:55, skrev Israel:
>>>> On 04/03/2018 02:34 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
>>>>> Den 2018-04-02 kl. 19:24, skrev Israel: ....
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Israel,
>>>
>>> Yes, it is a good idea generally. But if including 3 images will make
>>> the size exceed some size limit, it is better to have only one image
>>> in the default package (the tarball).
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Nio
>>
>> Hey Nio,
>>
>> The size of the original current background is 187.3 KiB
>>
>> The size of the 3 smaller images is 107.8 KiB
>>
>> So we are actually saving 80(ish) KiB by changing to this.  I think this
>> is really good because it offers more backgrounds, and reduces the size.
>>
>> Aside from that changing the size by KiB is not going to do much, we
>> need to reduce it by MiB.  Systemd really made our footprint balloon
>> pretty substantially, and make some things more complicated and not work
>> as well... but... it is what it is :)  I will again try to limit the
>> size of everything in the newer ISO, however I may have to dig deeper
>> and look for things that I can get rid of, and see if I can shrink the
>> tarball pretty substantially, OR
>>
>> a.) rework the live system to be extremely bare bones (text only) for a
>> special CD sized ISO.
>>
>> b.) make an ISO with the tarball NOT included so it can be kept on a USB
>> to install to keep it CD sized.
>>
>
> Hi Israel, and all toriosadores,
>
> 1. I am waiting for the opinions of you other toriosadores ... :-)
>
> 2. Instead of shrinking the tarball pretty substantially, I think your
> alternatives, a.) and b.), are better.
>
> If possible, I think it would be best with a text only live system for a
> CD sized ISO file. But I have tested the alternative with a separate
> tarball (or separate tarballs) with the original One Button Installer,
> and if the user group people accept it, fine :-)
>
> Best regards
> Nio
>
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