Henning,

it is really nice of you to offer that. My own _PERSONAL_ feelings about it are as follows: The biggest problem which I have with village is the oracle lob stuff. I am using Saravanna Kannan's version of villag with oracle, which works fine if one just uses oracle, but does not work with other databases. My feeling is that creating a version which supports both oracle lobs and other databases is too much work considering that we want to chuck out village anyway.

So thanks for the offer, but for me as a Torque user it does not help me.

  Thomas


On Sun, 7 Aug 2005, Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote:

Thomas Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

On Thu, 4 Aug 2005, Robert Dietrick wrote:

The only remaining question now is: why on earth does Torque query the
database meta data before inserting when the OR mapping provides all the
information the system needs about the database?


This is one of the problems associated with the usage of the village
library. Not being one of the orignial authors of Torque, it seems that
using this library has sped up the development of Torque quite a lot in
the beginning, but now it is limitating Torque in quite a few places. It
might happen that at some point, the village library is thrown out of
Torque, but village is linked deeply into Torque, so this will be a lot of
work and is also likely to cause some trouble.

Just a quick opinion poll between our users:

As Village is a constant source of pain and those that are currently
using the 3.1 branch of Torque and probably also the 3.2 release will
be stuck on Village:

Any interest from you if I just whip up a small "branched Village"
site outside of the ASF, apply all the patches to the village tree
that you like to see and then just build a "village-<some
version>.jar" that we can distribute through ibiblio?

This wouldn't be a hard thing to do and though the plans for post-3.2
releases are to get rid of village, this might help our current users
in the short run.

As I already have a village tree that builds with maven, building a
site would be no big deal.

        Regards
                Henning


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