On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Stefan Rusek <ste...@rusek.org> wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 22:01, Steve Borho <st...@borho.org> wrote: >> >> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Kyle Altendorf <kyle.altend...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Steve Borho <st...@borho.org> wrote: >> > <snip> >> >> The downside? We'd perhaps have less of a right to call ourselves a >> >> "Tortoise" application. >> >> How much does anyone care? >> > >> > About it being a Tortoise application? Not at all. About having the >> > handy GUI be accessible from within Windows Explorer? Very much. I >> > certainly won't argue that Windows Explorer is better than anything >> > you might create but I feel that the integration into commonly used >> > directory browsers is key. Sadly, maintaining that feature sure seems >> > to come with a lot of nasty and annoying baggage. >> >> We'll certainly keep the explorer context menu extension, though it >> may be trimmed down. >> > > I guess I might be confused. Are you proposing dropping the shell extension > or its dependency on the TortoiseSVN icon overlay library. I suppose either > way I would be less inclined to use, and I though I would possibly still use > hgtk, I wouldn't be able to recommend thg to my coworkers anymore. The shell > integration (including icon overlays) is a real motivator for adoption on > windows, if it were dropped, there would likely also be a huge drop in usage > on windows. > I realize that the way explorer handles icon overlays is more than a little > stupid, but suggesting that users use a different tool for file management > just wouldn't work. Also, do you really want to have to maintain a full file > manager?
A file browser, not a file manager. We may support deletions and renames within a repository, but there's no way we want to try to build an entire file manager. That would just drag back in all of the problems we're trying to avoid. > Again I may have completely misunderstood what you are proposing. I'm proposing dropping icon overlays from the shell extension but leaving the context menu in place. Judging by feedback, this will have to be done in steps. 1. implement the file browser in 0.10 2. add support in the installer to optionally disable overlays (out of the box) in 0.10 3. in a later release, make 'overlays disabled' the default 4. in some later release, remove them from the extension entirely. -- Steve Borho ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience, a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere. http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev _______________________________________________ Tortoisehg-develop mailing list Tortoisehg-develop@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tortoisehg-develop
