On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 11:00 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: > Adam, > > These may not be technical issues but they are process issues. They > need to be resolved before the University of Oxford (and anyone doing > proper due diligence of IP) can contribute. >
well then i appreciate if you would say that your org requires things to happen in a certain order because of internal policy issues rather than suggest that FM is blocking the way. from my perspective you were free to write in FM from the day i set it up. adam > Ross > > 2009/9/14 adam hyde <[email protected]>: > > On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 09:03 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: > >> As usual I will be unable to attend the call. However I would > >> appreciate it if the legal situation for the book is discussed. Until > >> these are resolved I (and possibly others) are unable to contribute. > >> We have agreed, as a community, what the licensing model is to be but > >> we have not put any structure into place to ensure that we can > >> accommodate that. > >> > >> Summary of issues: > >> > >> a) licence on FLOSSManuals does not reflect licence agreed by > >> community (and is a licence not recommended for text by its own > >> authors http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#WhyNotGPLForManuals) > > > > > > there is no issue here. I said on this list and to greg, you can use > > whatever license you want. > > > > > >> > >> b) copyright is being accredited to an individual (not enforceable in > >> many parts of the EU) > >> > > > > this is not an issue. i said on this list and to greg, i will give the > > copyright to whoever you want me to > > > >> c) copyright is (to all intents and purposes) assigned to the chapter > >> author rather than licenced by contributor as agreed here > > > > this is not an issue. i said on this list and to greg, do what you want > > with attribution > > > > adam > > > > > >> > >> This is a ***blocker*** for me as a contributor. We have something > >> like 50+ QAd articles ***already written*** and another 30+ written > >> but not QAd. These resources span the majority of the proposed > >> chapters and include supporting interviews and case studies. We > >> publish around 15 new articles every year. I have scheduled half a day > >> every week of our content editor (who is a professional content editor > >> with 20 years experience) to work on integrating our work into the the > >> book/ > >> > >> The book would be considerably further advanced if we were to resolve > >> these issues. > >> > >> For my part I don't care who owns the copyright in the collective > >> works, but I need to be able to show our lawyers that the work is > >> adequately protected under British law, that is I need to show that I > >> have only licenced our contributions to the book and thus I can > >> continue to use our work in any way I desire. > >> > >> Having it licenced by to us is not sufficient for our legal team. We > >> need to retain copyright in our own materials and we need that to be > >> represented in the legal documentation. This means we need contributor > >> licence agreements as does any such project. > >> > >> I have volunteered to manage this process on behalf of the community, > >> but we need to get the process in place before it can be managed. As > >> soon as we agree who the copyright will be assigned to I will have the > >> CLA drawn up. Those who don't care and are happy to assign copyright > >> to the copyright holder can just proceed - the rest of us will need to > >> submit a CLA. I will handle the paperwork and, if necessary, I will > >> provide the University of Oxford as the owner of the copyright - there > >> will be no further paperwork required in this case as OSS Watch > >> already has the necessary infrastructure set up. > >> > >> Please note, this is not a "will write" but a "have written", situation. > >> > >> Ross > >> > >> > >> 2009/9/14 Chris Tyler <[email protected]>: > >> > > >> > Just a reminder that there's a TOS conference call Monday (Sept 14) at > >> > 15:00 UTC (11:00 EDT). We need to discuss (and invest some energy in) > >> > some of our initiatives to make them succeed. > >> > > >> > Call info including codes is at: > >> > http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/TOS_Conference_Call > >> > > >> > Proposed agenda is at: > >> > http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/TOS_Conference_Call/2009-09-14/Agenda > >> > > >> > -Chris > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > tos mailing list > >> > [email protected] > >> > http://teachingopensource.org/mailman/listinfo/tos > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > -- > > Adam Hyde > > Founder FLOSS Manuals > > German mobile : + 49 15 2230 54563 > > Email : [email protected] > > irc: irc.freenode.net #flossmanuals > > > > "Free manuals for free software" > > http://www.flossmanuals.net/about > > > > > > > > > -- Adam Hyde Founder FLOSS Manuals German mobile : + 49 15 2230 54563 Email : [email protected] irc: irc.freenode.net #flossmanuals "Free manuals for free software" http://www.flossmanuals.net/about _______________________________________________ tos mailing list [email protected] http://teachingopensource.org/mailman/listinfo/tos
