I agree with Chris. Neutrality and branding are quite dichotomic, and each has 
its own advantages and disadvantages. The main concern about excluding branding 
is lack of giving credit where credit is deserved, whether for contributing 
content or sponsoring whatever endeavors. The main concern about absolute 
neutrality or true freedom of expression is, as we all know, the underlying 
sustainability model.  

Mel's suggestion for using wiki templates with logos and sponsorship notes has 
merit. In TOS instance, though, attribution to Red Hat is probably needed for 
the vast majority of pages. In that case, TOS, like opensource.com, is, in 
reality, a Red Hat community service. I, personally, do not want TOS turned 
into opensource.com. 

The biggest appeal that TOS has for me is its neutral and diverse confluence of 
voices and professional experiences. The wiki, the Planet, the mailing list, 
and IRC channel are vital to keep TOS community alive. The community should 
discuss and decide what's TOS business model, how sponsorships play in, how 
grant funding could be channeled to support TOS (or directly link faculty and 
student work to TOS), and how other financial contributions can be made. To 
preserve neutrality and remain viable TOS might become at some point a 
nonprofit foundation, like Creative Commons or Sugar Labs (to choose two random 
and very different examples). I don't think that OSU Open Source Lab model, for 
example, is applicable to TOS, but that's another answer to how open source of 
any kind is sustained. And I have no idea of how a 'TOS Board' arrangement will 
work (if we consider Fedora Project Board model). 

I don't have a solution for how Red Hat should brand itself within TOS space, 
but if it does it right then other sponsors could do the same and more faculty 
and students could get the support they need. In practice, branding is a threat 
to neutrality. In theory, there might be ways by which branding protects 
neutrality. I'm hopeful we can find a middle ground. 

POSSE workshops have been a success so far and Red Hat has played a major role 
in making them possible. Red Hat's sponsorship for these workshops should be 
spelled out 'loud and clear'. 

Cheers,
Mihaela

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Tyler
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 11:22 PM
To: TOS
Subject: Re: [TOS] How can we mark what activities a particular group is doing 
within TOS?


I believe that branded content belongs on our own respective sites,
whether that of Seneca, Red Hat, Mozilla, Fedora, Canonical, or any
other umbrella. We all feel the pressures of branding; one of the main
benefits of TOS.o is that I can freely collaborate with others with that
pressure minimized.

-Chris

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