I'm a little lost in the minutes from this meeting.  Is the decision that we
use a VM that will be entirely administered by TOS?  And hence avoid using
any of OSL's centralized services?

If so, I'm not sure what we gain by managing all the services independently.


-- Nicholas


On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Jeff Sheltren <j...@osuosl.org> wrote:

> Ian, thanks for the note.  We setup a VM for Karsten to test out phpbb
> a while back -- Karsten, should we consider that a lost cause and
> reclaim that VM for general TOS use?
>
> A large part of the benefit of hosting something at the OSL is that we
> have students and full-time staff dedicated to providing hosting and
> system administration services.  We automate most everything in
> cfengine (soon puppet), and have experience scaling for very large
> communities / high traffic sites.  Should you choose to have full root
> access on a machine and maintain it yourself, then you would be
> missing out on a lot of these benefits.  That said, if the TOS
> community agrees that having their own sys admin team is the way to
> go, we're glad to provide full root access on a VM -- it just means
> we'll be less able to help should something go wrong with the
> server/services.
>
> We also have a lot of centralized services like I mentioned on IRC --
> mailman, DNS, mysql, postresql, etc. and we would urge you to use
> those as much as possible instead of running those services locally on
> your VM.
>
> -Jeff
>
> 2011/2/7 Ian Weller <i...@ianweller.org>:
> > Jeff,
> >
> > After today's ad-hoc discussion in #teachingopensource [1], Chris and I
> > agreed that we ought to request a VM with root access for the
> > TeachingOpenSource.org community.
> >
> > [1]:
> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teachingopensource/2011-02-07/teachingopensource.2011-02-07-21.37.log.html
> >
> > For everyone else on tos@: The goal is to have a team of TOS volunteers
> > complete the following tasks by SIGSCE (second week of March):
> >
> > - new server set up with shared root access (AFAIK, Chris and I are
> >  volunteering; anyone else?)
> > - MediaWiki instance set up on new server
> > - extension installed to deal with spam problem
> > - mailman moved over
> > - a place to point people who want to help with infra (likely wiki)
> > - a place for people to discuss what future services TOS should provide
> >
> > If you're interested in helping, add your name under Members here:
> >  http://www.teachingopensource.org/index.php/Infrastructure_Team
> > (the rest of that page is going to change rapidly as the evening
> > progresses.)
> >
> > --
> > Ian Weller <i...@ianweller.org>
> > Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com
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