On 04/07/2011 01:08 PM, Jim Bowring wrote:
> To that end, I direct you to the class wiki, from which you can reach
> the class website, the student blogs, and the team wikis.  This is a
> first-time work-in-progress and I encourage input to myself and to my
> students. I intend to build on this model for spring 2012 and beyond.
>
> http://csci462-2011.wikispaces.com/

Thanks for sharing your class with us, Jim - I hadn't heard about what 
you were doing before, but this is *wonderful*.

The blog reflections your students have written are great - are they 
aggregated anywhere? I see you linked to the wikipedia page on Planet 
blog aggregators in the resources section for the 2nd class at 
http://stono.cs.cofc.edu/~bowring/classes/csci 462/2011 
Spring/csci-462-spring-2011.html - but couldn't find an aggregator for 
the class itself, which might be an easier way of keeping up in the 
future rather than clicking through each blog post individually.

Also, are their blog entries open-content licensed? I'm not sure if 
that's something that's desired, but it would make it much easier to 
remix their comments into publications, materials for other courses, 
etc. and give them proper attribution.

I saw that some of your students were working on Sugar Activities, 
specifically Lemonade Stand and Fortune Hunter. Both of those were 
started by students at RIT, actually - they have a course devoted to 
Sugar Activity development, for which the syllabus is open-licensed 
here: http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/RIT/The_Course. Steve 
Jacobs and Dave Shein, the two professors who have taught the class, are 
on this mailing list and may have other comments.

We also had a POSSE last summer in Worcester State which was 
Sugar-focused, for which Walter Bender was one of the instructors - so 
the alumni of that POSSE (Peter Froehlich, Karl Wurst, Nadimpalli 
Mahadev, Kristina Striegnitz, Jerry Breecher, Mihaela Sabin, Gary 
Pollice, and Aparna Mahadev) may have some thoughts as well.

The Textbook project has basically fallen silent - I don't think we've 
actually heard much in the way of feedback from actual class usage of it 
before, so it was neat to see you actually using the book and exercises. 
What would you like to see done with the Textbook?

You're not too far from Raleigh, where we have another POSSE going on 
this summer (July 23-24) - have you thought about applying? 
(http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE#Apply) I think you'd like 
working with some of the other faculty attendees who we already know are 
coming - Karl and Kristina (and probably Mihaela) from the Sugar-focused 
POSSE will be coming (and your class sounds similar to Karl's), Andrea 
may be able to hook you up with RIT faculty and students who started the 
projects your class contributed to this term.

>From what I heard from your comments at POSSCON, you're likely to bring 
a good perspective on what makes TOS a *difficult* community to 
participate in - it seemed like there was a feeling of "slipping through 
the cracks" in the past, for which I apologise - we need to be aware of 
what's going on in order to make it better, so these kinds of insights 
are quite helpful. (One thing you may have noticed is that TOS has 
evolved to become very centered around this mailing list - it's almost 
as if everything not sent to the list doesn't exist... but we don't 
document that super-publicly or well yet.)

That's all the thoughts I had. Other comments?

--Mel
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