On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 09:41, Matthew Jadud <mja...@allegheny.edu> wrote: > On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 08:55, Kevin Mark <kevin.m...@verizon.net> wrote: >> The words I've heard from various folks is the word 'pre-print' copy. There >> seems to be some exception granted for a version of that paper that exists
Actually, I'd like to suggest that you do some more searching and reading online before ranting and/or suggesting that it go through the legal blog channel. For example, looking at http://realtimerendering.com/open_access.html this is an issue that has been discussed at some length, I suspect, in various ACM fora. (And, perhaps, IEEE.) While it is true that being explicitly allowed to release a published version of a paper online is not "open access," the ACM copyright policy is friendlier than many others in this regard -- you are allowed/encouraged to place published versions of a work online for others to download. I know this is not the kind of freedom that you're talking about, but I still am of the opinion that I'd rather see an article that took the conversation to the next step -- contacting ACM or IEEE legal, asking what would happen if you released first under a CC license, etc., and reporting *that* back. We know there are copyrights everywhere, and in terms of complaint, you're roughly a decade late to the party (the NIH and others got on this about 10+ years back, which is why we now have PLoS and many other open access journals. First Monday may have been one of the first open access journals, but I'm a bit vague on the history in this space... actually, there was probably an open access journal published in 1874 that none of us know about, but you get my point.). I clearly have an opinion/angle that I keep pushing, and can no longer avoid the fact that I need to update my personal web page. Avoid though I might, I have work to do... :P That, and another podcast to edit... Cheers, M _______________________________________________ tos mailing list tos@teachingopensource.org http://lists.teachingopensource.org/mailman/listinfo/tos