Hello boys and girls,
      
Now I know how Carl felt back in 1980......

     First of all, let me apologise for the following
e-mail. I don't want this to carry on as a long
running childish argument, but I will take exception
with anybody misquoting me. Saying that the band won't
give a damn about us being ripped off by Virgin
compilations is not the same as saying that the band
don't care about their fans full stop!! Lee, Carl and
Chris in particular have been very good to me in the
past and I know that they all care about the fans.
That's why three of the band receive the weekly M.I.S.
bulletin every week.      
     However, it is clear that what I was saying
(below) was that the band won't lose any sleep over
yet another Virgin compilation. Who can blame them,
they have more important things on their mind. If we
are going to be over-the-top about this, I can always
reproduce the interview from Record Collector last
year where Carl defended all the greatest hits cds.
This is not a criticism of Carl, it must be stated.
    In response to my "BOOTLEGS ARE GREAT!" line, it
was stated that bootlegs should not be sold for
profit. Where did I say they should be sold for
profit???? I spoke out against this in my previous
e-mail. Am I missing something??? Don't quote me on
that!
    Also, in your e-mail on monday, Jenny, you stated
that the list does not endorse the sale of bootlegs
and "I'm sure most of us would agree". I'm afraid
Jenny that you'll find yourself in a tiny minority
there. Most of the people on this list would possess a
bootleg cd amongst their collection which is proof of
that person's own endorsement.
    Finally, the list has been on a slippery slope in
recent months with nothing happening with the band.
Chris Mountain quite correctly pointed out at and
after the Rhythmstock weekend that the list needs
fresh ideas. Exactly, and I reckon a very interesting
thing would be if people listed their own bootlegs, so
the rest of us would know what is missing in their
collection. For example, somebody recently offered me
a French gig from 1986 on cd. Never knew it existed
actually. But you won't know if you don't discuss.....
It's one of the reasons why people get the MIS
bulletin instead of being a member of the list.

Vince Carden.......Don't mix music and politics!

--- Jenny Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > VINCENT
CARDEN wrote:
> > 
> > Oh by the way, do you think Madness give a damn
> about
> > you when you get ripped of by Virgin's
> compilations
> > and digitally remastered rubbish?!?! What's that
> > phrase about "getting a taste of your own
> medicine".
> > 
> What the hell is this?
> Portraying Madness as a band that doesn't care about
> their fans?!?! This
> is just totally unbelievable... especially after all
> the things they have
> done for us.  
> 
> > BOOTLEGS ARE GREAT! BOOTLEGS ARE GREAT! BOOTLEGS
> ARE
> > GREAT! BOOTLEGS ARE GREAT! BOOTLEGS ARE GREAT!
> 
> Bootlegs, in my opinion, should not be sold for
> profit... unless that
> money goes to the band.  It's one thing to have a
> copy of a concert you
> paid to go see, it's entirely another to make X
> amount of copies and
> profit from a band's performance.
> 
> Jenny
> 
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