Those missing pages must be talking about the Mossad's role in staging 9/11.

 

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0307/29/ldt.00.html 

 

LOU DOBBS TONIGHT

Saudi Arabia Requests 9/11 Report be Declassified; 

Aired July 29, 2003 - 18:00   ET

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UPDATED.

LOU DOBBS, HOST: Tonight: The Saudis want the White House to declassify the
September 11 intelligence report. The president says, no way. What's at
stake? Senator Richard Shelby joins us, as well as former Ambassador to
Saudi Arabia Richard Murphy. 
Saddam speaks. When will he be caught or killed? 

Gay high schools: tolerance or segregation, progress or retreat? 

Western states are in a drought, Europe and Asia in the grip of record heat
waves. Are these new world weather patterns global warming? 

And advertisers targeting kids, are there any limits? Our special report,
"Selling America."

ANNOUNCER: This is LOU DOBBS TONIGHT for Tuesday, July 29. Here now, Lou
Dobbs.

DOBBS: Good evening. 

Tonight: a dramatic end to a police beating trial in California that
provoked a storm of protests in the community. A judge declared a hung jury
after jurors said they were hopelessly deadlocked. Former Inglewood police
officer Jeremy Morse was caught on videotape slamming a teenage suspect on
to the trunk of a patrol car and punching him in the face. 

Thelma Gutierrez joins me live now from the courthouse in Los Angeles --
Thelma.

....Stay with us. 

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) 

....

President Bush today rejected calls to release classified sections of a
congressional report on the September 11 terrorist attacks. Members of
Congress say parts of that report link the Saudi government to the al Qaeda.
[this is a smoke screen to make people think that the missing pages are
about Saudi Arabia whereas they really about Mossad]

Senior White House correspondent John King has more on the story -- John.

JOHN KING, CNN SR. WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: And, Lou, because of those
allegations from members of Congress that somehow the Bush administration is
trying to protect the Saudi regime by keeping incriminating information
classified and out of the public domain, the Saudi foreign minister made an
extraordinary visit to the White House today, Prince Saud al-Faisal coming
here to complain. 

He says his government is being smeared by some members of Congress. He says
his government in no way had anything to do with, supported, or knew
anything in advance about the September 11 attacks. But Prince Saud
al-Faisal said his government cannot answer the criticisms because it does
not know what is in those 28 pages kept classified and out of the document,
the report Congress released last week on the 9/11 attacks. 

Prince Saud al-Faisal came to President Bush, raised his complaints, and
said the best way so that Saudi Arabia can answer those questions is for the
administration to make those documents public. 

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) 

PRINCE SAUD AL-FAISAL, SAUDI FOREIGN MINISTER: We have nothing to hide. And
we do not seek, nor do we need to be shielded. We believe that releasing the
missing 28 pages would allow us to respond to any allegations in a clear and
credible manner. 

(END VIDEO CLIP) 

KING: President Bush was asked about this earlier in the day. He was in the
Rose Garden with the Israeli prime minister, Ariel Sharon. Mr. Bush is well
aware of the political controversy. But he says he makes his decision based
simply on this, the president saying he will not allow those documents to be
released right now because, he says, to do so would undermine the
still-ongoing criminal investigation of the September 11 attacks. 

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: But it
makes no sense to declassify when we've got an ongoing investigation that
could jeopardize that investigation. And it made no sense to declassify if
-- during the war on terror. 

(END VIDEO CLIP) 

KING: More and more members of Congress saying that the president should
release this material. Democratic Senator Joseph Lieberman, among those
running for president, says the administration is giving the impression it
has something to hide and is protecting the Saudis. 

Republican Senator Olympia Snowe, who is on the Intelligence Committee,
joining the former chairman, Senator Richard Shelby, as among the
Republicans who are saying most, if not all, of this material could be made
public. So, Lou, the political debate continues. But the administration says
its bottom line is, it will not make public anything that might undermine an
FBI and other investigations or, as some administration officials -- give
the bad guys some of the evidence that we know -- Lou. 

DOBBS: At the same time, John, a very sophisticated White House, CIA and
Congress surely could come up with the conclusions without divulging the
sources and methods by which they reached those conclusions, could they not?


KING: Well, there is a debate now about whether perhaps you can release some
of this material, not all of it. The administration says it would like to
wait a few more months, at least, as the investigations go. But there is
some talk on Capitol Hill of lawmakers using the power the Senate
Intelligence Committee has or powers that the Congress as a whole has to
perhaps release more of this material. 

So the president gave a pretty tough reason today as to why he says no. But
it is unlikely to be the final word. This debate will continue. 

DOBBS: John, thank you very much. We're going to be talking about Senator
Richard Shelby right now to get -- get his views. 

John King, senior White House correspondent, thank you. 

Well, Senator Shelby has been amongst the most vocal members of Congress
calling for the release of those documents. Senator Richard Shelby is the
former chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, which
compiled the September 11 report. He chairs the Senate Banking Committee and
joins us now from Capitol Hill. 

Senator, good to have you with us. 

SEN. RICHARD SHELBY (R), ALABAMA: Good evening, Lou. 

DOBBS: The idea that this White House does not choose to declassify those 28
pages and would prefer several months in which to apparently prepare the
American public for whatever they contain, how does that sit with you? 

SHELBY: Lou, last week, I spent a number of hours, most of the day, looking
through the intelligence report that was classified. 

I specifically read the 28 pages very, very thoroughly. In my judgment, I
believe 90 percent, 95 percent of the 28 pages could be declassified without
harming national security in any way. Now, I know there are some things in
there that we should not declassify. But it's only a small part of the
report.

DOBBS: A small part. And you've taken this up with the administration, the
president today adamant that he will not declassify those pages because of
national security concerns. There is no way to give here, no way to
compromise? 

SHELBY: Well, you know, I have a lot of respect for the president. I'm one
of his supporters, and I like a lot of his policies. But I would disagree on
that particular point. And I think there will be a lot of other people, once
they read those 28 pages, which I'd say every senator ought to do and every
member of Congress, they can make their own judgments. 

DOBBS: Well, Senator, every senator on your committee with whom I've spoken,
Democrat and Republican, is taken aback by the classification of those 28
pages. Is there not a way -- and the Saudi Foreign Minister Faisal today
outraged that his country would be facing 28 blank pages rather than charges
to which the Saudis could respond, is there not some way we can deal with
the conclusions here specifically on Saudi Arabia without divulging
information within those 28 pages? 

SHELBY: Well, my judgment is that you can, but... 

DOBBS: Then let's do. 

SHELBY: But ultimately, it will be up to the administration to declassify
this information unless we go through the laborious and tortuous process,
which we can do, through the Senate. We could do it that way. It's the hard
way. I think we ought to try to do it the easier way. 

DOBBS: Well, let me ask you point blank then. Is there a reason that the
Saudis should fear what is reported in those 28 pages? 

SHELBY: Well, I'm not going to reference a particular country, but I can say
that what's in the 28 pages, in my judgment, after spending eight years on
the Intelligence Committee, 90, 95 percent of it would not compromise, in my
judgment, anything in national security. 

DOBBS: And not referencing the Saudis in particular, is there any nation,
unnamed, amongst those catalogued in those 28 pages who would find their
contents embarrassing? 

SHELBY: Well, the embarrassment is one thing. I think it -- I think you'll
have to wait and see if that's declassified or not. But I'm just going to
stay with my judgment that most of it ought to be declassified and let the
American people know what's in it. 

DOBBS: Well, let me turn to the committee that you do chair, the Senate
Banking Committee. The funding of terrorists in nearly every instance from
the Saudi royal families or members of the Saudi royal families, not to
approach the Saudi royal family as a monolith, has gone from charities to
terrorists, the predominant amount of that money. Is your committee
investigating that, and how rigorously? 

SHELBY: Well, we are getting under way in investigating who funds
terrorists. We have that oversight responsibility. We have the jurisdiction
on the Banking Committee. And I've said before, Lou, that money is the key
to terrorists. Without money, without financing they can't go far. They
can't exist. They can't buy the proper weapons, and they can't sustain
attacks. 

DOBBS: Senator, no one in the U.S. Congress has better credentials in
intelligence and in finance than yourself. Is it your judgment at this point
that enough is being done to end, to curtail the funding of al Qaeda? 

SHELBY: We're doing a lot, and we've come a long way. And I'll have to say
this administration is really working Treasury and others in the right
direction. But we could have more cooperation, better cooperation. There are
a lot of countries in the world that we don't have today, certainly didn't
have a year-and-a-half ago. 

DOBBS: Senator Richard Shelby, we appreciate your being here. 

SHELBY: Thank you. Lou.

DOBBS: Thank you.

That brings us to the topic of tonight's poll question. 

Do you believe the White House should declassify those 28 pages of the
September 11 report, yes or no? 

Cast your vote at cnn.com/lou. We'll have the results later in the show. 

....

DOBBS: Almost 1.5 points. All right. Christine Romans, thank you. 

And finally tonight, an elephant at a safari park in England gave visitors
something of a surprise. The elephant picked up a rock. Here is the
elephant. There is the rock. He hurled it at a car, shattering a window. The
woman in the car was slightly injured. A zoo keeper said the elephant
probably didn't mean any harm, just thought he would throw the rock when he
realized it wasn't food. Threw it in disgust, I suppose. As far as technique
goes, you have to admit, this is pretty good. 

That's our show tonight. Thanks for being with us. Tomorrow, we continue our
series of special reports, "Selling America." Senator Paul Sarbanes joins us
to discuss the advances in corporate reform and the fight against corporate
corruption. For all of us here, good night from New York. "LIVE FROM THE
HEADLINES" with Anderson Cooper is next.

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