Has the majority sold their souls to the Devil?

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From: pop ulist [mailto:[email protected]] 
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Subject: Paul Craig Roberts tells the sad truth of our time and nation:
morality vs. material interests

Paul Craig Roberts [email him] was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury 
during President Reagan's first term.  He was Associate Editor of the 
Wall Street Journal.  He has held numerous academic appointments, 
including the William E. Simon Chair, Center for Strategic and 
International Studies, Georgetown University, and Senior Research 
Fellow, Hoover Institution, Stanford University. He was awarded the 
Legion of Honor by French President Francois Mitterrand. He is the 
author of Supply-Side Revolution : An Insider's Account of Policymaking 
in Washington;  Alienation and the Soviet Economy and Meltdown: Inside 
the Soviet Economy, and is the co-author with Lawrence M. Stratton of 
The Tyranny of Good Intentions : How Prosecutors and Bureaucrats Are 
Trampling the Constitution in the Name of Justice. Click here for Peter 
Brimelow's Forbes Magazine interview with Roberts about the recent 
epidemic of prosecutorial misconduct.

Truth is getting harder and harder for Americans to acknowledge because 
they have preferred too long to believe the convenient lie.  Cognitive 
dissonance (refusal to believe upsetting truths) is now status quo.

This country is doomed and going down very fast.  It has already reached 
the point wherein those who would get back to law, justice, plain 
goodness, i.e. right order, are branded criminals and soon will be 
prosecuted as such.  No wonder those concentration camps are being readied.

It's too late to screw around on the political level.  Get your "house" 
in order.

Tony B.



November 12, 2009
Myths of Our Time

morality vs. material interests

By Paul Craig Roberts

It is conventional wisdom that it was the draft that ended the Vietnam 
war.  According to this explanation, cowardly college students subject 
to the draft and their unpatriotic families, forced an end to the war. 
This is Karl Marx's explanation.  Material interests, not empty 
morality, are said to have brought the war to an end.

That fact that in those days the US still had an independent media of 
sorts that sometimes framed the war in moral terms is ignored.  Are we 
sure, for example, that the film of the naked little girl running in 
terror down the road burning with napalm was ineffectual in arousing 
moral opposition to the war?  Are we certain that it wasn't an aroused 
moral conscience that brought about the end of the war but was  college 
students' fears for their lives and limbs?

If we ascribe ending the war to material interests, it makes ending the 
war look as unworthy as the war itself.

Yet, virtually every conservative columnist, commentator, newsperson and 
politician, as well as today's antiwar protesters and apparently the 
Pentagon, believes that a military draft would reduce Americans' 
toleration for wars because of body bags coming home to middle and upper 
class parents. Apparently, the lower class doesn't mind its kids coming 
back in body bags.

Those in thrall to this explanation, which derives from Marx's 
materialist explanation of history, do not notice that Vietnam was our 
longest war.  It apparently took almost forever for the material 
interest of students and their parents to realize itself and stop the war.

Why are we afraid to say that the war stopped because American troops 
and the American population got tired, offended even, from killing 
women, children and noncombatants?  Vietnam had not attacked the US. The 
US had interjected itself into a civil war in a far off place, as it has 
done in Afghanistan.

By invading Iraq the US started a civil war between Sunni and Shi'ite. 
In Pakistan the US has started a civil war between the religious tribal 
population and the secular US puppet state.  In Palestine the US started 
a civil war between Fatah and Hamas.

One continuously reads from those Americans opposed to America's wars of 
aggression that the wars are possible because they don't affect 
Americans, just those few who sign up for the voluntary military.  Thus, 
there are insufficient material interests at stake to stop the war. 
This is a common explanation for the weakness of the antiwar movement.

One could argue instead that it is the triumph of Karl Marx's 
materialist thinking that has made moral protests impotent.  What is 
morality?  You can't weigh it, define it, measure it.  It can be 
dismissed as the whining of material interests.  In contrast, material 
interests, such as lives, limbs, and bank accounts are real.

For whatever the reason, morality has shown itself to be an impotent 
force in 21st century America.  Americans show no remorse at over one 
million dead Iraqis and four million displaced Iraqis due entirely to an 
American invasion based on lies and deception.  The lies and deception 
are now well proven.  Yet, there has been no apology for the horrors 
that Americans inflicted on Iraq.

Afghanistan is another example.  Intentional lies conflated the Taliban 
with al Qaeda and "terrorists."  The diverse peoples in Afghanistan who 
were first ravaged by Soviet bombs are now ravaged by American bombs. 
Weddings, funerals, children's soccer games, people waiting for fuel or 
food, people asleep in their homes, people attending Mosques have all 
been murdered and are murdered routinely by US and its NATO puppets.

Each time civilians are murdered, the US denies it, only to be 
contradicted every time by the evidence.

Why is the president of the United States contemplating sending yet tens 
of thousands more US troops to kill people in Afghanistan?

The answer is that the United States is an immoral country, with an 
immoral people and an immoral government.  Americans no longer have a 
moral conscience.  They have gone over to the Dark Side.

Humanity has endeavored for millennia to control evil with morality.  In 
the American "superpower," this effort has collapsed and failed.

The United States needs to be censured for its immoral behavior, not 
have that behavior rationalized as being in its material interests.

Paul Craig Roberts [email him] was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury 
during President Reagan's first term.  He was Associate Editor of the 
Wall Street Journal.  He has held numerous academic appointments, 
including the William E. Simon Chair, Center for Strategic and 
International Studies, Georgetown University, and Senior Research 
Fellow, Hoover Institution, Stanford University. He was awarded the 
Legion of Honor by French President Francois Mitterrand. He is the 
author of Supply-Side Revolution : An Insider's Account of Policymaking 
in Washington;  Alienation and the Soviet Economy and Meltdown: Inside 
the Soviet Economy, and is the co-author with Lawrence M. Stratton of 
The Tyranny of Good Intentions : How Prosecutors and Bureaucrats Are 
Trampling the Constitution in the Name of Justice. Click here for Peter 
Brimelow's Forbes Magazine interview with Roberts about the recent 
epidemic of prosecutorial misconduct.



 
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