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On 2016-02-09T11:10:33+00:00 Yanpas wrote:

Without pulseaudio volume level is detected correctly. (I 've changed default 
card in /etc/asound.conf, then ran `speaker-test -c6 -twav` and set volume in 
alsamixer to 3 per centages)
With pulseaudio:
1) Headset is loud, even on lowest possible volume level
2) If I set volume below 35 per centages (below -27 db) the output becomes 
silent immediately.
3) On some computers, there is possibility to change analog mode to digital 
(S/PDIF). With digital mode it becomes calmer: the loudest volume level 
produces low volume, it is the same as 35% of analog mode, and the lowest 
volume level may be still determined.

Tested with latest versions (ubuntu xenial):
Version 7.1
kernel 4.4

cat /proc/asound/card3/pcm0p/info 
card: 3
device: 0
subdevice: 0
stream: PLAYBACK
id: USB Audio
name: USB Audio
subname: subdevice #0
class: 0
subclass: 0
subdevices_count: 1
subdevices_avail: 1

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On 2016-02-09T11:19:17+00:00 Yanpas wrote:

from lshw
            *-usbhost
                product: OHCI PCI host controller
                vendor: Linux 4.4.0-2-generic ohci_hcd
                physical id: 1
                bus info: usb@7
                logical name: usb7
                version: 4.04
                capabilities: usb-1.10
                configuration: driver=hub slots=4 speed=12Mbit/s
              *-usb
                   description: Audio device
                   product: Creative HS-720 Headset
                   vendor: Creative Technology Ltd.
                   physical id: 1
                   bus info: usb@7:1
                   version: 1.00
                   capabilities: usb-1.10 audio-control
                   configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=100mA speed=12Mbit/s

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On 2016-02-09T14:57:51+00:00 Raymond wrote:

You can use ignore_db=1 If pulseaudio don't. Like dB range -28.37 dB to
0dB



state.Headset { 
control.1 { iface MIXER name 'PCM Playback Switch'
 value true comment { access 'read write' 
type BOOLEAN
 count 1 } } 
control.2 { iface MIXER name 'PCM Playback Volume' 
value.0 12 value.1 12 comment { access 'read write'
 type INTEGER 
count 2 
range '0 - 38' dbmin -2837 dbmax -6 
dbvalue.0 -1943 dbvalue.1 -1943 } }

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On 2016-02-09T15:02:34+00:00 Raymond wrote:

Can you provide the log when you change the volume slider?

Do the volume change when you change from step 0 to step 38 using alsa
mixer

-28.37 to -0.06 dB

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On 2016-02-09T15:08:37+00:00 Raymond wrote:

You can provide correct dB range by re calibrate your usb audio device

https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound.git/commit/sound/usb?id=42e3121d90f42e57f6dbd6083dff2f57b3ec7daa

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On 2016-02-09T15:48:18+00:00 Yanpas wrote:

Created attachment 121624
vvvvlog

I've made log according to this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio/Log :
`LANG=C pulseaudio -vvvv --log-time=1 > ~/pulseverbose.log 2>&1`

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On 2016-02-09T16:00:31+00:00 Yanpas wrote:

1)I've searched over the internet and have found the same issue as mine (35% 
too), but with another usb audio card :
https://chrisjean.com/fix-for-usb-audio-is-too-loud-and-mutes-at-low-volume-in-ubuntu/
Some notes from this guide helped me: I 've changed "volume = merge" to "volume 
= ignore" in /usr/share/pulseaudio/alsa-mixer/paths/analog-output.conf.common

Situation now is much much better: headset behave as they should be (the
same like in digital mode), but the maximum volume is not loud enough
imho (120-130% would be fine). Setting volume over 100% causes overdrive
(headset may play louder without overdrives according to my past
expirience).

Maybe making such config default is good idea? (replace  merge with
ignore)

2) I 'm using windows-dualboot and I have noticed that 100% volume on
windows is always louder that 100% on linux (with PA)

3) In which file should I place "ignore_db=1"?

4) Is it dangerous to recalibrate my headsets? Should I use any program
(I don't know which) to provide range which I consider correct? And
which units should I use ? (dB, volts, some virtual usb units etc.) I
guess such patches should be sent to alsa project or kernel, not PA.

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On 2016-02-09T16:30:08+00:00 Yanpas wrote:

Nevermind point 3. "load-module module-udev-detect use_ucm=0 ignore_dB=1" in 
/etc/pulse/default.pa is far better solution. The volume may be still extreme 
loud, but I won't set it over 45%.
>From all above I conclude:
1) It's not PA fault, but some default configurations may be altered in 
pulseaudio. Why not to make ignore_dB=1 default?
2) According to latest comment here: 
https://chrisjean.com/fix-for-usb-audio-is-too-loud-and-mutes-at-low-volume-in-ubuntu/
On some architectures (amd64) or most motherboards creative and some other 
cards are too loud, and I should have talks with kernel devs with this problem

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On 2016-02-10T09:32:17+00:00 Raymond wrote:

1.814| 0.000) I: [pulseaudio] alsa-sink.c: Hardware volume ranges from -28,37 
dB to -0,06 dB. ( 1.814| 0.000) I: [pulseaudio] alsa-sink.c: Fixing base volume 
to 0,06 dB ( 1.814| 0.000) I: [pulseaudio] alsa-sink.c: Using hardware volume 
control. Hardware dB scale supported. ( 1.814| 0.000) I: [pulseaudio] 
alsa-sink.c: Using hardware mute control. ( 1.814| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] 
alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_dump(): ( 1.814| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: 
Hardware PCM card 2 'Creative HS-720 Headset' device 0 subdevice 0 ( 1.814| 
0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: Its setup is: ( 1.814| 0.000) D: 
[pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: stream : PLAYBACK ( 1.814| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] 
alsa-util.c: access : MMAP_INTERLEAVED ( 1.814| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] 
alsa-util.c: format : S16_LE ( 1.814| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: 
subformat : STD ( 1.814| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: channels : 2 ( 
1.814| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: rate : 44100 
( 1.814| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: exact rate : 44100 (44100/1) 
( 1.814| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: msbits : 16 
( 1.814| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: buffer_size : 88200 
( 1.814| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: period_size : 44100 
( 1.814| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: period_time : 1000000 
( 1.814| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: tstamp_mode : ENABLE 
( 1.814| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: period_step : 1 
( 1.814| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: avail_min : 87319 
( 1.814| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: period_event : 0 
( 1.814| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: start_threshold : -1 
( 1.814| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: stop_threshold : 
6206523236469964800
 ( 1.814| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: silence_threshold: 0
 ( 1.814| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: silence_size : 0 
( 1.814| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: boundary : 6206523236469964800 
( 1.814| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: appl_ptr : 0 
( 1.814| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: hw_ptr : 0 
( 1.815| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-sink.c: Requested volume: 0: 35% 1: 35% 
( 1.815| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-sink.c: in dB: 0: -27,14 dB 1: -27,14 dB
 ( 1.815| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-sink.c: Got hardware volume: 0: 36% 1: 36%
 ( 1.815| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-sink.c: in dB: 0: -26,82 dB 1: -26,82 dB 
( 1.815| 0.000) D: [alsa-sink-USB Audio] alsa-sink.c: Thread starting up 
( 1.815| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-sink.c: Calculated software volume: 0: 99% 
1: 99% (accurate-enough=no) 
( 1.815| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-sink.c: in dB: 0: -0,32 dB 1: -0,32 dB 
( 1.815| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-sink.c: Written HW volume did not match 
with the request: 0: 35% 1: 35% (request) != 0: 36% 1: 36%
 ( 1.815| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-sink.

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On 2016-02-10T14:18:35+00:00 Yanpas wrote:

Created attachment 121649
alsainfo

That's my alsainfo.sh output.
BTW, the log, which was uploaded before was made under these circumstances: 
I've changed volume from about 25 to 40 per cents. I didn't understand what am 
I exactly to do, particalrly which interpreter to use for the script you wrote 
in comment 2

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On 2016-02-10T15:21:18+00:00 Raymond wrote:

dB per step = (28.37-0.06)/38 = 0.745 dB per step

 min dB -28.37,  -27.625 , -26.88

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On 2016-02-11T02:07:18+00:00 Raymond wrote:

(In reply to Yan Pashkovsky from comment #6)
> 1)I've searched over the internet and have found the same issue as mine (35%
> too), but with another usb audio card :
> https://chrisjean.com/fix-for-usb-audio-is-too-loud-and-mutes-at-low-volume-
> in-ubuntu/
> Some notes from this guide helped me: I 've changed "volume = merge" to
> "volume = ignore" in
> /usr/share/pulseaudio/alsa-mixer/paths/analog-output.conf.common
> 
> Situation now is much much better: headset behave as they should be (the
> same like in digital mode), but the maximum volume is not loud enough imho
> (120-130% would be fine). Setting volume over 100% causes overdrive (headset
> may play louder without overdrives according to my past expirience). 
> 
> Maybe making such config default is good idea? (replace  merge with ignore)


> 
687| 0.000) I: [pulseaudio] alsa-sink.c: Hardware volume ranges from -179,00 dB 
to 0,00 dB.
 ( 1.687| 0.000) I: [pulseaudio] alsa-sink.c: Fixing base volume to 0,00 dB
 ( 1.687| 0.000) I: [pulseaudio] alsa-sink.c: Using hardware volume control. 
Hardware dB scale supported. 
( 1.687| 0.000) I: [pulseaudio] alsa-sink.c: Using hardware mute control. 
( 1.687| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_dump(): 
( 1.687| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: Soft volume PCM 
( 1.687| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: Control: PCM Playback Volume 
( 1.687| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: min_dB: -51
 ( 1.687| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: max_dB: 0 
( 1.687| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: resolution: 256


Pulseaudio seem ignore softvol plugin PCM as realtek alc892 dB range is obly 9x

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On 2016-02-11T03:28:06+00:00 Raymond wrote:

state.IntelHDA { control.1 { comment.access 'read write' comment.type
INTEGER comment.count 2 comment.range '0 - 64' comment.dbmin -6400
comment.dbmax 0 iface MIXER name 'Front Playback Volume' value.0 64
value.1 64 }

Alc892 only have 64 steps and each step is 1dB

How do pulseaudio calculate -179dB?

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On 2016-02-11T03:37:43+00:00 Raymond wrote:

Front + virtual Master + PCM softvol = -64 -64 -51 = -179

do the volume range correct?

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On 2016-02-11T14:00:40+00:00 Raymond wrote:

1.815| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-sink.c: in dB: 0: -27,14 dB 1: -27,14
dB ( 1.815| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-sink.c: Got hardware volume: 0:
36% 1: 36% ( 1.815| 0.000) D: [pulseaudio] alsa-sink.c: in dB: 0: -26,82
dB 1: -26,82 dB ( 1


There is no hardware volume at -26.82 dB

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On 2016-02-12T16:16:10+00:00 Raymond wrote:

why pulseaudio adjust dB by -0.06


-26.88 = -26.82 - 0.06

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Title:
  [USB-Audio - USB PnP Sound Device, playback] volume slider problem:
  USB headset playback suddenly drops to inaudible when volume is set
  below a certain level

Status in ALSA driver:
  Unknown
Status in alsa-driver package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete

Bug description:
  With this headset:

  [ 9922.706941] usb 1-1.4: new full-speed USB device number 4 using ehci-pci
  [ 9922.805274] usb 1-1.4: New USB device found, idVendor=1ea7, idProduct=0055
  [ 9922.805279] usb 1-1.4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, 
SerialNumber=0
  [ 9922.805282] usb 1-1.4: Product: USB PnP Sound Device
  [ 9922.805284] usb 1-1.4: Manufacturer: C-Media Electronics Inc.      
  [ 9922.806688] input: C-Media Electronics Inc.       USB PnP Sound Device as 
/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1a.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.4/1-1.4:1.3/input/input12
  [ 9922.806802] hid-generic 0003:1EA7:0055.0002: input,hidraw1: USB HID v1.00 
Device [C-Media Electronics Inc.       USB PnP Sound Device] on 
usb-0000:00:1a.0-1.4/input3
  [ 9922.872746] usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio

  called "CSL Stormrider Wired Headset", playback becomes suddenly
  inaudible when the volume slider in the unity sound preferences
  (accessed via indicator → loudspeaker icon → sound settings) is set to
  below circa 40 %. Setting to above ~40 % restores playback volume to
  what you would expect.

  In alsamixer, the same problem occurs when going from volume level 02
  to volume level 01. At alsamixer level 02, the volume is about what
  you would expect when setting a volume slider to about 40 %.

  This is annoying since 40 % can already be rather loud.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 14.04
  Package: alsa-base 1.0.25+dfsg-0ubuntu4
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.13.0-74.118-generic 3.13.11-ckt30
  Uname: Linux 3.13.0-74-generic x86_64
  ApportVersion: 2.14.1-0ubuntu3.19
  Architecture: amd64
  CurrentDesktop: Unity
  Date: Sat Jan 16 14:25:15 2016
  PackageArchitecture: all
  SourcePackage: alsa-driver
  Symptom: audio
  Symptom_Card: Integrated Rate Matching Hub - USB PnP Sound Device
  Symptom_Type: Volume slider, or mixer problems
  Title: [USB-Audio - USB PnP Sound Device, playback] volume slider problem
  UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to trusty on 2014-05-24 (602 days ago)
  dmi.bios.date: 12/10/2012
  dmi.bios.vendor: American Megatrends Inc.
  dmi.bios.version: P1.60
  dmi.board.name: B75 Pro3
  dmi.board.vendor: ASRock
  dmi.chassis.asset.tag: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
  dmi.chassis.type: 3
  dmi.chassis.vendor: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
  dmi.chassis.version: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
  dmi.modalias: 
dmi:bvnAmericanMegatrendsInc.:bvrP1.60:bd12/10/2012:svnToBeFilledByO.E.M.:pnToBeFilledByO.E.M.:pvrToBeFilledByO.E.M.:rvnASRock:rnB75Pro3:rvr:cvnToBeFilledByO.E.M.:ct3:cvrToBeFilledByO.E.M.:
  dmi.product.name: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
  dmi.product.version: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
  dmi.sys.vendor: To Be Filled By O.E.M.

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