https://charmhub.io/ntp/configure
ntp_package | string
If set to "ntp" the ntp package will be installed and configured, or if
set to "chrony" the chrony package will be installed and configured. If
unspecified the appropriate package will be selected based on the
operating system. Please note that the use of ntp on Ubuntu bionic or
later is not recommended as it does not receive security updates.
** Package changed: charms => ntp (Juju Charms Collection)
** Changed in: ntp (Juju Charms Collection)
Status: New => Confirmed
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2039252
Title:
[needs-packaging] The packages ntp and ntpsec are not equivalent
Status in NTP:
Confirmed
Status in ntp package in Ubuntu:
Confirmed
Status in ntp package in Juju Charms Collection:
Confirmed
Status in ntp package in Debian:
Confirmed
Bug description:
I recently did an install of Ubuntu 23.04 and then configured ntp as I have
been doing so for more than 8 years.
With previous versions of Debian and Ubuntu using the real ntp package, the
details at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JonathanFerguson/NTP?action=recall&rev=38
created the desired results.
I updated the details at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JonathanFerguson/NTP with
the new location of ntp.conf, after restarting I noticed that the resultant
output was missing requisite details.
Compare the following and the lack of ".MCST." and ".ACST.":
Original ntp on Apollo-Lake-N3150
jonathan@Apollo-Lake-N3450:~$ lsb_release -rd
Description: Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS
Release: 22.04
jonathan@Apollo-Lake-N3450:~$ ntpq -p
remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter
==============================================================================
0.ubuntu.pool.n .POOL. 16 p - 64 0 0.000 +0.000 0.000
1.ubuntu.pool.n .POOL. 16 p - 64 0 0.000 +0.000 0.000
2.ubuntu.pool.n .POOL. 16 p - 64 0 0.000 +0.000 0.000
3.ubuntu.pool.n .POOL. 16 p - 64 0 0.000 +0.000 0.000
ntp.ubuntu.com .POOL. 16 p - 64 0 0.000 +0.000 0.000
ntp.mcast.net .MCST. 16 M - 64 0 0.000 +0.000 0.000
ff0e::101 .MCST. 16 M - 64 0 0.000 +0.000 0.000
ntp.mcast.net .ACST. 16 a - 64 0 0.000 +0.000 0.000
ff0e::101 .ACST. 16 a - 64 0 0.000 +0.000 0.000
*time.cloudflare 10.242.8.77 3 u 469 1024 367 234.691 -0.929 67.380
+2001-44b8-2100- 42.3.115.79 2 u 581 1024 377 487.209 +55.669 57.154
+2001-44b8-2100- 4.179.66.17 3 u 215 1024 377 489.637 +57.002 35.399
jonathan@Apollo-Lake-N3450:~$
NTPsec on Braswell-N3150
jonathan@Braswell-N3150:~$ lsb_release -rd
No LSB modules are available.
Description: Ubuntu 23.04
Release: 23.04
jonathan@Braswell-N3150:~$ ntpq -p
remote refid st t when poll reach
delay offset jitter
=======================================================================================================
0.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org .POOL. 16 p - 256 0
0.0000 0.0000 0.0002
1.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org .POOL. 16 p - 256 0
0.0000 0.0000 0.0002
2.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org .POOL. 16 p - 256 0
0.0000 0.0000 0.0002
3.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org .POOL. 16 p - 64 0
0.0000 0.0000 0.0002
+prod-ntp-5.ntp1.ps5.canonical.com 37.15.221.189 2 u 141 1024 367
383.4932 -19.6895 35.0534
*time.tfmcloud.au 203.35.83.242 2 u 325 1024 367
325.9317 -0.1496 43.0522
+any.time.nl 133.243.238.243 2 u 158 1024 373
300.7941 -20.8962 136.1422
+ntp2.its.waikato.ac.nz .GPS. 1 u 363 1024 377
356.5361 -18.2740 140.5984
+2001-44b8-2100-3f00-0000-0000-007b-0004 42.3.115.79 2 u 214 1024 367
490.3898 28.3416 2.7728
+tic.ntp.telstra.net 203.35.83.242 2 u 13 1024 367
566.0744 -14.1332 6.0377
+863xqmprtfqv69pv7nwc.ip6.superloop.au 192.168.1.1 2 u 79 1024 367
330.2658 -14.3483 16.2172
+gps-ads.10mrlp.juneks.com.au .PPS. 1 u 271 1024 367
443.4812 -71.8020 44.6332
+x.ns.gin.ntt.net 129.250.35.222 2 u 57 1024 367
22.4974 41.3055 6.0639
jonathan@Braswell-N3150:~$
This behaviour will affect the following:
Ubuntu 22.10, 23.04 and 23.10
Debian 12, 13 and 14
NTPsec have documented their reasoning for lacking support.
https://docs.ntpsec.org/latest/discover.html
https://docs.ntpsec.org/latest/ntpsec.html
https://docs.ntpsec.org/latest/assoc.html#broad
https://docs.ntpsec.org/latest/assoc.html#many
The issue remains that ntp and ntpsec are not capability equivalent.
I foresee two means of rectifying this predicament, if NTPsec is going
to be the default implementation of NTP then ntpsec needs to implement
all of the capabilities of ntp, or the easier alternative is that the
real ntp https://www.ntp.org/downloads/ is packaged as ntp-classic for
instances where its capabilities are required.
ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 23.04
Package: ntp 1:4.2.8p15+dfsg-2~1.2.2+dfsg1-1
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 6.2.0-34.34-generic 6.2.16
Uname: Linux 6.2.0-34-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.26.1-0ubuntu2
Architecture: amd64
CasperMD5CheckResult: pass
Date: Fri Oct 13 18:13:27 2023
InstallationDate: Installed on 2023-09-15 (27 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu-Unity 23.04 "Lunar Lobster" - Release amd64
(20230419)
PackageArchitecture: all
SourcePackage: ntpsec
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
modified.conffile..etc.ntpsec.ntp.conf: [modified]
mtime.conffile..etc.ntpsec.ntp.conf: 2023-10-12T21:59:03.557719
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