Mnyb;597221 Wrote: 
> The trick is to the record the stuff at 24/192 or higher and digitally
> re-sample to a consumer format , theese filter does way more damage at
> ADC end than the DAC end. And as most DAC's oversample 128 times and
> use a very benign filter in the ultrasonic region. So this is actually
> a solved problem.
> 

Well, let's be clear, the problem of *how* to do the filtering
efficiently and accurately has been solved, but the fact of doing the
filtering is in itself a problem: you are losing something if you do
and losing something else if you don't. 

The plain facts are as follows: Our Red Book CDs are sampled at
44.1kHz. Whatever process was used to get to 44.1kHz sampling rate must
have made an attempt to first satisfy Nyquist's sampling theorem by
removing *all* spectral content above 22.05kHz. I don't care if that
process was done digitally at very high sample rates or otherwise; the
fact remains that a filter has to have been used that provides very
good attenuation above 22kHz. The closer this filter is to a brick wall
in shape the longer the impulse response tails (and pre-echo) will be. 
But there is very little latitude for making this filter 'relaxed' in
the frequency domain because we want to have the passband extend to
~20kHz, and we want to be ~90dB down by 22.05kHz. This implies a high
order filter, and an extended (some would argue unnatural) impulse
response.  There are still some choices to be made, but I think all of
them are non-ideal, and yet at the same time indispensable.

A NOS DAC attempts not to make the problem worse, but you must still
live with the choice of decimation filter the mastering engineer chose
to use.


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