SBGK wrote: 
> further update.
> 
> I was still getting quite a lot of hf noise which I assumed was related
> to EDO. Turns out it was due to the usb cable, even though I had cut it
> down to 20cm and disconnected the ground and had tried another usb cable
> which sounded the same.
> 
> I had used wires from an ethernet cable to make up a cable to connect
> the vlink 192 to the dac1 via xlr with pin 1 dropped to stop ground loop
> issues and drain wire connected to the transmit end.
> 
> So decided to make up a usb cable using this wire. It is 24 gauge cat5e
> foil screen 4 twisted pair with drain wire. �1.49/m from Maplins.
> 
> I connected the v+ and ground directly to the Touch board using 2
> untwisted wires, these were kept separate to the d+ and d- wires.
> 
> I connected the d+ and d- wires to the usb a plug and the drain to the a
> plug screen.
> 
> then joined the v+, ground and d+,d- back up in the usb b plug. the
> drain wire wasn't connected to the b plug.
> 
> result - better dynamics, better detail, better separation, no
> sibilance. In fact the best sound I have had out of the Touch.
> 
> So the usb cable was rather a critical component in my setup. Don't know
> if it was the quality of the cable or separating the v+ and ground from
> the d+ and d-, but the effect is pretty big. mind you, if you look at
> standard usb cable wires they are really thin, so that might have had
> something to do with it.
> 
> ps I tried various configurations using a twisted pair from a cat6 cable
> and tin foil
> 
> twisted pair, unscreened - good detail, open sound, bit hard sounding
> twisted pair, foil screen - bit enclosed sounding, good bass, less open
> than unscreened
> twisted pair, foil screen connected to usb a plug - good sound 
> 
> final setup - cat5e cable, foil screen with drain wire (integral to
> cable) connected to transmit end, used 1 pair and left rest
> unconnected.
> 
> http://www.maplin.co.uk/cat-5e-network-cable-ftp-solid-13246
> 
> also tried ferrites on the standard cable, that had quite a good effect
> of reducing the hf noise as well, though I don't need them with the
> above setup.

I'm surprised you are having such noticeable issues with USB cables...
One the adavantages of "Async USB" should be to minimize/eliminate cable
dependencies you may notice with "Adaptive USB"... Does you DAC support
"Async USB"?


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