On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 01:22:57PM -0600, Rob Landley wrote:
> After the FSF zealots flamed Tim Bird and Sony to a crisp:
> 
>   https://lwn.net/Articles/478308/
> 
> The various corporations interested in toybox have been VERY quiet about
> it. They email me off-list and read me the Mission Impossible speech
> about the secretary denying all knowledge if we're caught and their
> involvment self destructing in 5 seconds if so.
> 
> I tried to correct the record in the comments, ala
> https://lwn.net/Articles/480382/ and https://lwn.net/Articles/480836/
> but it didn't help. The FSF is a group of political zealots bordering on
> a religion, the old line applies about how you can't use rational
> argument to talk someone out of a position they didn't arrive at
> rationally in the first place. The best I can do is try to prevent the
> next generation from following them down the rathole (hence the Ohio
> Linufest talk, which I really need to redo. I had 3 hours of material
> and a little under an hour to speak, and that was _after_ spending a
> week trying to edit it down.)
> 
> So I've gotten a lot of off the record emails with very interesting
> data, and various people going "we really need this, can't say why" and
> I do my best with the information I've got to keep the project on track...

For the record, I first heard about toybox when groklaw had some article
complaining about toybox (after that whole blow-up), read the project
site instead of the complaints, and decided that I'd look for a chance
to contribute.

Thanks,
Isaac Dunham
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