For what it's worth, http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-admin/node25.html
It's been several years since I had to deal with this kind of thing, but the behavior we're seeing is similar to a case I had to troubleshoot in the past where the bounce-processing was configured to be too aggressive. This caused subtle trouble when some sites started implementing greylisting and rate-limited acceptance. I believe that gmail does both nowadays... I ended up having to significantly increase the threshold as well as set the stale period very low. Some of the behavior I saw didn't match the documentation, and the final values that fixed the problem should not have been very useful as per the documentation, but the problem went away :shrug: On 2/9/19, dmccunney <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 3:49 PM David Seikel > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > I fixed it all up via the web gui when gmail did this last week, and >> > I just fixed it up again after yesterday's mass-bouncing, but I'm >> > kind of tired of it. >> > >> > As far as I can tell, other mailing lists are coming to a "gmail is >> > too dysfunctional to use with mailing lists" consensus: >> >> I've been saying that here for some time. Everybody just move off gmail >> and be done with it. My non gmail address wasn't bounced off the list. >> Gmail is bad, m'kay. Protonmail.com works OK if you want a web based >> alternative. > > Gmail works fine here for every *other* mailing list I'm on, including > a couple I created and maintain as Google Groups. > > The biggest mailing list problems I encounter are with folks > subscribed via AOL or Yahoo addresses. Those sites turned on > provisions of the DKIP specification that specify that headers may not > be *changed* en route. This breaks mailing lists, as mailing list > managers must diddle headers as part of what they do. What happens > depends on the servers that get the list mail. Some will discard it > undelivered as spam and not mention they have. Some will accept and > deliver it, but label it spam (Gmail does this.) I've told folks on > various lists using AOL or Yahoo addresses they have three choices: > > Stay subscribed to the list from their AOL or Yahoo address, but be > aware that other list members may never see their posts > Drop off the list > Find another email provider. > > I don't know what Gmail's allergy to the Toybox list is, but I don't > think Gmail is the problem. > > (I have a Proton mail account. Handy for the privacy obsessed, but > way too slow for volume traffic here.) > ______ > Dennis > (Who was *delighted* to shift to Gmail, drop MS Outlook as email > client, and download mail locally via POP) > https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 > _______________________________________________ > Toybox mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.landley.net/listinfo.cgi/toybox-landley.net > _______________________________________________ Toybox mailing list [email protected] http://lists.landley.net/listinfo.cgi/toybox-landley.net
