On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 5:46 PM Rob Landley <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 4/11/19 7:12 PM, enh wrote:
> >> Yeah but if their implementation's 20 years old and I had the short option 
> >> name
> >> first...
> >
> > that would be a stronger argument if you were actually going to POSIX
> > with this stuff. the trouble is that they _do_...
>
> Posix removed "tar" and "cpio" from their standard command list over 10 years
> ago, in favor of something nobody anywhere uses for anything. What would 
> telling
> them I added something to tar accomplish?

that's so crazy i thought you must be mistaken, but, no: pax is there
but tar is gone. but <tar.h> is still there (which was what made me
think you must be wrong).

>   https://landley.net/notes-2016.html#11-03-2016
>
> Meanwhile, https://lwn.net/Articles/658809/ kinda took the LSB out of
> commission. (Their initial gripe was Red Hat paid them to standardize RPM but
> not .deb, and Ubuntu objected hard but couldn't outbid Red Hat.)

as far as i could tell lsb was never obviously useful anyway.

> I very much want standards, but the standards _bodies_ seem to have idiots
> driving. One is seniority uber alles and the other bows to the largest check 
> and
> has since been joined by microsoft.
>
> Rob
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