On 2024-02-05 17:39:33, Mouse wrote: > > I was mostly offline over the weekend, and gmail refused pop3 this > > morning [...] > > > So I closed the tab and went to other windows, but next time I passed > > that virtual desktop I clicked "get messages" in thunderbird out of > > sheer habit... and it worked. And I can send too. > > I suspect gmail is made up of many, many machines, and not just because > I can't imagine how one machine could handle the load.
I know Yahoo email is like that. Very unreliable, and I get error messages from a bunch of different Yahoo servers when it fails to collect. It's been doing this for many years. Like I mentioned in my last email, Yahoo is like Gmail, I'm only using it for ancient people with my old emails that rarely email me. My favourite failure notice from Yahoo - "Failure: Success!!". Considering how often it fails, I can see that actually working might count as a failure mode. lol > I don't normally send mail to gmail addresses because most of them > can't mail me back. But there are a few people who have other channels > to reach me by, to whom I've sent from my own infrastructure, where I > have a user agent I can stand. > > Then, a little bit ago - a month? - I tried to send to one of them and > Google rejected the mail with some babblage about it being > insufficiently authenticated. I tried again some hours - a day? - > later and it worked fine. I've been getting such failures > intermittently since then, to the point where I've stopped trying. > > But the point here is that the failures are intermittent. I speculate > that this happens because they're pushing a new version of their > infrastructure code to their world-facing machines gradually, so it > breaks when I happen to draw a machine with the new code on it. > > And this would explain your own trouble, too: we just need to posit > that you got a new-code machine "this morning", but an old-code machine > "next time". (Whether the new version that broke interop for me is the > same as the one that broke interop for you is perhaps interesting to > speculate about, but not very relevant from a pragmatic point of view, > even if my guess is correct.) -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. _______________________________________________ Toybox mailing list [email protected] http://lists.landley.net/listinfo.cgi/toybox-landley.net
