On Wed, 2025-09-17 at 23:22 -0500, Rob Landley wrote:
> On 9/17/25 12:08, zyxhere💭 wrote:
> > Hi Rob what distro do you use, your youtube videos seem to suggest a
> > glibc one tho you look more like an alpine guy.
> 
> On my laptop?
> 
> $ cat /etc/os-release
> PRETTY_NAME="Devuan GNU/Linux 5 (daedalus)"
> NAME="Devuan GNU/Linux"

https://beta.devuan.org/os/init-freedom suggests that it still defaults
to sysvinit only?! I thought it would OpenRC as its the more popular
one and is actually a service manager too. Or maybe you switch out it
with OpenRC? Actually looking at alpine they still use busybox as init
but OpenRC on top as a service manager, Gentoo also still defaults to
sysvinit with OpenRC on top of it.
But I have heard rumors OpenRC will be removing the abiity to do so
because it apparently causes issues for the new features they want to
implement.

> VERSION_ID="5"
> VERSION="5 (daedalus)"
> VERSION_CODENAME="daedalus"
> ID=devuan
> ID_LIKE=debian
> HOME_URL="https://www.devuan.org/";
> SUPPORT_URL="https://devuan.org/os/community";
> BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.devuan.org/";
> 
> It's basically "debian without systemd". I mention it a lot in my blog, 
> especially last year (https://landley.net/notes-2024.html) when I 
> upgraded from B to D. (Which in Debian terms was reinstalling from 
> Buster to Bookworm.)
> 
> I've got various other distros in VMs I run under kvm: currently 
> Freebsd-14.2, alpine 3.19.1, archlinux-2021, linuxmint-21.2-xfce, fedora 
> 36, and xubuntu 22.04. Plus redhat 9 and redhat 6 from the dawn of time 
> (and knoppix 3.6 and 6.7) in case I want to ask historical questions, 
> and some non-x86 debian and buildroot images to run under qemu in case I 
> want to see how other systems handle something on an architecture (but 
> that's WAY slower than kvm).

With the qemu-user chroot thing or qemu-system-* still? I did the
mistake of compiling gcc in an arm64 qemu chroot once instead of using
a cross-compiler (took two days on my laptop)
> 
> Plus I ssh to various other systems. (This laptop is slow and ancient, 
> sometimes I borrow a newer 32-way SMP machine to rebuild all the 
> toolchains and mkroot targets WITHOUT leaving it all running overnight...)
> 
> Rob

I forgot to ask the most important question! What desktop environment!!
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