Hi Eugene,

The app itself does not crash. The TPTP stops counting the received bytes. The 
app remains in running status, but I cannot interact with it. I guess the 
controll is in this 'crash' situation under the TPTP. 

The task monitor shows after stop counting the bytes 0% of activity. Therefore 
I guess something in the TPTP is crashed.

Sending the whole app is not really possible, cause it's a company app and I 
would be in serious troubles. Also it requires many additional components which 
might be hard for you to reproduce it on a click.

The workspace log reveals nothing from a crash, just the counted bytes. Are 
there some option to turn on to see little bit more information?

I guess opening a Bug with that kind of frugal information what happens does 
not help anybody. So, I would to support the process of investigation, but I 
fear that insufficient information will be contradictive. Therefore I try to 
clarify some issues in front with this mailing-list.

:)

LeO


-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:41:42 -0400
> Von: Eugene Chan <ewc...@ca.ibm.com>
> An: TPTP Tracing and Profiling Tools Project developer discussions 
> <tptp-tracing-profiling-tools-dev@eclipse.org>
> CC: TPTP Tracing and Profiling Tools Project developer discussions 
> <tptp-tracing-profiling-tools-dev@eclipse.org>, 
> tptp-tracing-profiling-tools-dev-boun...@eclipse.org
> Betreff: Re: RE: [tptp-tracing-profiling-tools-dev] Profiling crashh

> Hi Leo,
> 
> Does the application under profiled crashed after it was started or after 
> your interaction with the application? The instrumentation for profiling 
> might be under processed when it crashed. It sounds like a bug to me. 
> Would you please open a bug on TPTP under TPTP Profiling group and 
> component Platform.Agents.JVMTI. It would help if you can attach your 
> workspace for reproducing the problem. Please also attach any JVM dump 
> files and workspace/.metadata/.log file.
> 
> Regards,
> ___________________________________________
> 
> Eugene Chan
> IBM Toronto Lab, Canada
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From:
> "LeO Welsch" <leo4...@turboprinz.de>
> To:
> TPTP Tracing and Profiling Tools Project developer discussions 
> <tptp-tracing-profiling-tools-dev@eclipse.org>, 
> tptp-tracing-profiling-tools-dev@eclipse.org, 
> tptp-tracing-profiling-tools-dev@eclipse.org
> Date:
> 06/09/2009 03:40 AM
> Subject:
> Re: RE: [tptp-tracing-profiling-tools-dev] Profiling crashh
> Sent by:
> tptp-tracing-profiling-tools-dev-boun...@eclipse.org
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> once more. I feel like a wave-surfer. From top of the enthusiastic, 
> happiness cause TPTP is working, back to the bottom of frustration cause 
> now not working.
> 
> I did not changed any setting of working or not, neither the work-load on 
> my machine. Differences? No real idea, just some faint idea, like now the 
> network is might be more unresponsivness, cause more people are working. 
> 
> So, next time before writting an email out of my joy, I need more testings
> :(
> 
> Any ideas, what I can check next?
> 
> LeO
> 
> 
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > Datum: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 08:41:31 +0200
> > Von: "LeO Welsch" <leo4...@turboprinz.de>
> > An: TPTP Tracing and Profiling Tools Project developer discussions 
> <tptp-tracing-profiling-tools-dev@eclipse.org>, 
> tptp-tracing-profiling-tools-dev@eclipse.org
> > Betreff: Re: RE: [tptp-tracing-profiling-tools-dev] Profiling crashh
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > filtering the data solves somehow the problem. Although I am not pretty
> > sure, IFFF I am now filtering toooooo much.
> > 
> > The standard filtering was applied already and I needed to specify
> > additional filters for my specific app classes. At least it currently 
> helps me to
> > inspect the other classes.
> > 
> > So, there is not a generic problem, more or less a specific problem with
> > that particular app.
> > 
> > >>From the point of usage the TPTP I have the shortcomes to reviewed my
> > settings once more, after posting. I am happy that it is solved NOW. But
> I
> > would like to ask, if there is not an option to give the user some kind 
> of
> > feedback, that
> > 
> > - either the profiler has crashed
> > - or too much data is collected to be handled properly
> > 
> > Is it technical possible?
> > 
> > Perhaps not a regular situation, but I guess it's the starting point to
> > either choose TPTP or something else. I am happy with TPTP, but if you 
> have
> > no idea, where to tune it, I guess not everybody starts reviewing docu,
> > posting etc. (seems to be there is good reason for the abbrev RTFM ;)
> > 
> > No complain, just some ideas, some brain food ;)
> > 
> > thx for help
> > 
> > LeO
> > 
> > 
> > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > > Datum: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 09:32:13 +0800
> > > Von: "Deng, Chengrui" <chengrui.d...@intel.com>
> > > An: TPTP Tracing and Profiling Tools Project developer discussions
> > <tptp-tracing-profiling-tools-dev@eclipse.org>
> > > Betreff: RE: [tptp-tracing-profiling-tools-dev] Profiling crashh
> > 
> > > Hi, LeO,
> > >   I am not sure about whether the Memory-Execution problem you
> > encountered
> > > is related with Profiler crash. However, if you just want to get
> > profiling
> > > data for your objects, maybe you can try with the filter option before
> > > profiling. You can find about filter usage in TPTP help documents.
> > >   Another suggestion about the problem: please try with some other
> > > applications with Memory profiling to make sure whether the problem
> > happens just
> > > on a special application or it is a general problem.
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > Chengrui Deng
> > > 
> > > China Runtime Technologies Lab, 
> > > SSG/SSD/MRTC, Intel
> > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: tptp-tracing-profiling-tools-dev-boun...@eclipse.org
> > > [mailto:tptp-tracing-profiling-tools-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] On 
> Behalf
> > Of
> > > leo4...@turboprinz.de
> > > Sent: 2009年6月8日 16:53
> > > To: tptp-tracing-profiling-tools-dev@eclipse.org
> > > Subject: [tptp-tracing-profiling-tools-dev] Profiling crashh
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I am not pretty sure, if I am posting on the proper Mailing List. If
> > not,
> > > please give me a hint, where to post in a more appropriate way.
> > > 
> > > I have downloaded TPTP-4.6.0-200906041936 and thought, it might solve
> > some
> > > of my problems I experienced with 3.4. Unfortunately not. (Java 
> 1.6.013
> > on
> > > WinXP, 2GB, 2x1,66GHz)
> > > 
> > > The current problem:
> > > 
> > > I can launch my application for profiling, either as Memory-Execution
> > (ME)
> > > or Execution Time Analysis (ETA). With the ETA I have no problems at
> > all,
> > > while I have serious problems with ME. Since I wanna detect Mem-Leaks 
> I
> > am
> > > interested in ME and not the other possibilities.
> > > 
> > > What happens:
> > > 
> > > During the launch process the profiler seems to crash. I cannot click 
> on
> > > my application and all I can do is to terminate. At the start up there
> > are
> > > plenty of DB-accesses as well as remote server accesses. Splitted into
> > > several threads. I can even click on the Pause-button during start-up
> > but the
> > > problem remains. Sometimes (1 out of 30-40) the app could be launched.
> > > 
> > > When I stop the app, I can see as well some data are collected.
> > > Interesting part is to see, the CPU-consumption goes up to 100% for 
> some
> > time and
> > > then remains to 0%. From this I conclude, the Profiler crash.
> > > 
> > > Since the ETA works while the ME not, I do not see it as a generic 
> setup
> > > problem. I have Object-data and would assume they are counted 
> properly.
> > > 
> > > Question:
> > > 
> > > What can I do to get profiling data for my objects? (Without 
> rewritting
> > my
> > > code to work with TPTP)
> > > 
> > > I could also raise a Bug, but frankly said, I have no idea, what to 
> post
> > > there resp. what kind of symptoms are relevant, what kind of traces 
> are
> > > required, etc....
> > > 
> > > Thx if somebody could help
> > > 
> > > :)
> > > 
> > > LeO
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