Noah Kantrowitz wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Jani Tiainen >> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 1:11 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [Trac-dev] Re: Is Redmine a better Trac? What's gone wrong >> with Trac? > > [snip] > >> But still it feels that there is not much of real discussion how to >> implement and possible solutions. Most of requests are bypassed by "use >> a plugin" or "do a plugin" statements. It's a bit annoying specially >> since it makes you feel that you need to trust some hacked "3rd party" >> tool. > > This is true. We do avoid discussion of some things when we know there won't > ever be a clear way forward without action. In the example of multi-project > support, I have been quite vocal that people should build examples of lots > of different models, and see which ones people like. This is why I have > spent so much time trying to build TracForge. > > Unrelated to this is the idea that doing things in plugins is bad. I really > don't understand where people get this idea. Trac is already just a plugin > framework, and some bundled plugins (wiki, tickets, timeline, etc). There is > no fundamental difference between 3rd party stuff from trac-hacks, and Trac > itself (other than decoupled release dates, smaller codebase, etc). I wrote > a long rant on this on my blog > (http://coderanger.livejournal.com/23087.html) so I don't feel I need to > repeat it all here, but the short of it is that people need to stop thinking > "plugin" == "bad". > [snip]
It would be good to get feedback about why ppl feel this way. Noah has talked about trac-hacks++ and a nice plugin installer. That would go a long way to dispel the notion that "trac-hacks" are bad. I also think some marketing could go a long way, like drop the name for something more "stable" sounding. ;) A rating system would be nice, so you could see right away what plugins are solid and widely used and which ones to be wary of. Also, a simple way for ppl to contribute to plugins. I think github does an excellent job in this regard and would like to see something like that for trac-hacks. We wouldn't have such a problem with orphaned plugins either. What are ppl's feelings about this? --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Trac Development" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-dev?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
