Hi,

I haven't read all your conversation, but I want to give my 2 cents. It 
would be great if the notification system of Trac would be improved - thank 
you for your effort to get it into Trac Core!

In our company a periodically sent report is an important feature (esp. for 
managers and project leaders). I have written a plugin for that: 
http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/MailPlugin. It would be great if you take a 
periodically sent report in consideration of the advanced notification (see 
also AnnouncerPlugin-ticket http://trac-hacks.org/ticket/8802).

Best regards,
Franz


On Saturday, November 17, 2012 10:14:24 PM UTC+1, Peter Suter wrote:
>
> On 17.11.2012 21:09, Steffen Hoffmann wrote: 
> >> (15 months!?) 
> > 
> > Really? I didn't look it up by now. Amazing, how time passed by. 
>
> Yes, I was surprised too. :) 
>
> > Incompatible? Dunno, but I remember the sentence from the 
> > AnnouncerPlugin wiki page, that for moving from TracNotification to 
> > Announcer one may rename [notification] to [announcer] and go from 
> > there. So it was meant with some compatibility in mind, at least 
> > initially. I've not done a side-by-side feature and option comparison by 
> > now, although this may be required for success of the replacement 
> proposal. 
>
> I meant incompatible as in you can't use them both and automatically get 
> the best of both worlds. (While TracNotification has not changed a lot 
> there have been a few additions that I think are not yet in Announcer 
> e.g. batch notifications.) I'm not sure if one could use both at the 
> same time (e.g. because you use one plugin that sends announcements and 
> one that sends core notifications.) 
>
> >> But since this topic is coming up now, here's a short overview of my 
> idea: 
> >> ... 
> > Interesting approach. 
>
> I've started writing up some more details as a proposal: 
> http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev/Proposals/AdvancedNotification 
>
> > So AnnouncerPlugin would be reduced to stuff, that lives in 
> > announcer/opt now. 
>
> Basically, yes. I assume e.g. XMPP would stay in AnnouncerPlugin as 
> well. But even things like wiki notifications and html emails (while 
> really nice to have) would not be that important to transition into 
> core. The important thing would be that administrators can easily add 
> these features by installing AnnouncerPlugin without having to switch to 
> an entirely new system. 
>
> > Certainly 
> >   * multiple transport options 
> >   * subscription model 
> >   * flexible user preferences 
> > are the core of Announcer. 
>
> Yes, and this core to me also seems quite mature. I really appreciate 
> that you want to bring the entire plugin into good shape. Just getting 
> the above into Trac seems almost too important to wait though. 
>
> > Finally crypto functionality [...] 
>  > [...] will remain in a plugin, because it's still far 
> > from common stuff and real-world applications rarely care for privacy 
> > and true confidentiality. 
>
> Agree! I wondered if a new ICryptographyProvider extension point would 
> be needed for that, but using a decorator sounds like a good idea! 
>
> > I'm not determined about the best approach for the aforementioned 
> > Announcer proposal yet. Actually I'm looking forward to reactions from 
> > other developers about their view and vision for bringing in Announcer 
> > features and more to Trac. 
>
> Same here. Let's Cc trac-dev mailing list... 
>
> -- 
> Peter 
>
>

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