I can't figure out what the objective of this mail was. Was it just a
general rant about any number of problems with the universe, or was
there some specific point?

On 11/7/07, rupert thurner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> pypi? oh ... a very good idea ... created 
> http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/EggCookingTutorial/publish.
>
> about distributed version control, rainer:
>
> of course i was kidding. looking e.g. at 
> http://repo.or.cz/git-browser/by-commit.html?r=git.git
> shows the "release often" world. to release so often and to have every
> feature in one branch, who wants this? it just makes the display of
> the repository in a graphic log slow. and this easy merge stuff .. a
> real developer need to know the revision number where he branched off.
> and who the h... wants to have more than one branch, nobody needs
> stable, testing, unstable.
>
> also this linux torvalds guy with his obsession in little easy to
> understand patch policy and this tedious lieutenant system, how should
> that work? a real developer puts the change sets immediatly into trunk
> which then gets more attention and quick feedback from other
> developers. it also prevents choosing the generals of the branches,
> such decisions do not lead to anything.
>
> and why would i want to merge in some feature of a developer i do not
> even know? i prefer of course copying that line by line out of a trac
> ticket, find the file, and carefully handcraft that patch into the
> file! and after the next upgrade i do it of course some code might
> have been changed exactly there, which deserves all the attention to
> handcraft it again.
>
> of course there are many other advantages: writing some code and
> publish it via patch to a trac ticket is also very appealing. it makes
> sure not too many people are using it and bothering me with stupid
> comments about the low quality. and it also makes sure it does not get
> too easy merged in into trac which helps keeping it slim. also the
> change history does not get overloaded, which makes it easy to follow,
> see 
> http://trac.edgewall.org/timeline?from=11%2F07%2F2007&daysback=14&changeset=on&update=Update.
> i mean why should one want to support christian anyway, if he can do
> it alone? having commit access to a few people of course guarantees
> that nobody comes up easily with strange branches nobody wants. we see
> how bad these branches are already with security, workflow, context.
> they just make the release cycle long.
>
> after all, what should i do with the whole repository on my disk where
> space is anyway not available? mirroring, this would be just a
> bothersome side effect. who would have an interest to spread out this
> repository to an arbitrary number of sites where you have no idea any
> more if it is the original not virus prone code?
>
> rupert.
>
>
> On Nov 6, 5:51 pm, Noah Kantrowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How about we just wait the 2 hours for an admin to notice and kick
> > apache in the head?
> >
> > I think this is being seriously over-thought. If people need the code
> > for plugins, it should all be available on PyPI as a "mirror" (assuming
> > the author was wise enough to push copies there).
> >
> > --Noah
> >
> >
> >
> > Axton wrote:
> > > On Nov 6, 2007 11:13 AM, Lars Stavholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >> Axton wrote:
> >
> > >>> On Nov 6, 2007 10:53 AM, Emmanuel Blot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>> SVN 1.4+ has svnsync available which is also an option. It can be set 
> > >>>>> up
> > >>>>> to run as a commit hook and push out/sync changesets to a list of 
> > >>>>> mirror
> > >>>>> repositories or just be scheduled for periodic sync.
> >
> > >>>> Sure but this means TH needs to push information - therefore an
> > >>>> operation is required on TH when a new mirror appears or needs to be
> > >>>> removed.
> >
> > >>> For mirrors, what about creating a daily copy of the repo using
> > >>> 'svnadmin dump', then posting the file for public download.  Sites
> > >>> that wanted to mirror could then fetch a copy on an interval and load
> > >>> it using 'svnadmin load'.
> >
> > >>> To ensure service, it could be worked out that in the event of a
> > >>> failure at trac-hacks, a repository could be designated as a backup
> > >>> working site.  The backup site could be kept up to date using svnsync
> > >>> using a post-commit hook.  Changes on this site could be loaded to
> > >>> trac-hacks when service is restored.
> >
> > >> That's all good ideas.
> > >> How about mirroring the Trac site itself?
> > >> /L
> >
> > > How about the same arrangement so far as the schedule; just tgz the
> > > resulting directory structure from trac-admin hotcopy.
> >
> > > I have a hosted machine I can offer as a mirror if the owner of TH
> > > will work with me to make some type of arrangement.  Host has 500gb
> > > monthly transfer, runs Trac 0.10.3.1, svn 1.4.2, apache 2.2.4, python
> > > 2.4, sqlite 3.3.10, linux x86.
> >
> > > The authentication will be a little tricky, as my site may not be
> > > configured like the TH site.  I use digest auth via TracAccountManager
> > > 0.1.3dev-r1844.  The same set of htdigest credentials are used to
> > > manage svn commit access.
> >
> > > Axton Grams
> >
> > > >
> >
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