the only comparable product i know is emforge, looks like an
opensource jira clone: http://www.emforge.org/wiki/EmForgeWorkflowDevelopment.
it uses jbos jbpm to drive the workflow, and therefor one is able to
draw the workflow.


On Aug 7, 2:42 pm, Olemis Lang <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Priscilla<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
>
> Hello !
>
> > I am a new user to Trac. I need a tool where I can draw the business
> > process model for a project
> > and it will automatically get the timeline from it.
> > Does Trac have this facility?
>
> I'm assuming here that you'r talking about using FOSS to design a
> business process using BPMN and automatically generate the executable
> BPEL to (monitor | run) the process and possible more (e.g. BAM, BI,
> ...) . If you need either a human-centric or integration-centric
> approach, the answer is the same :
>
> AFAIK ... NO, there's no plugin for that, but possibly a lot of ways
> to make it possible in a few years or so (perhaps I'm a little bit
> pesimistic here :-/ ). The fact is that to implement all those things
> as one or many Trac plugin is a very, very, very time-consuming task
> (not mentioning that I still dont find a Py-lib to manipulate BPEL or
> BPMN :-/ ) which definitely requires either a strong incentive (e.g.
> the company I work for is evaluating many developments for BPMS, but
> AFAIK FOSS is not an option and therefore good bye Trac :-/ ) or many
> hands (and this is IMO). Besides it's far beyond the goals of the core
> Trac system (especially because of the MINIMALISTIC part of its
> approach to project management)
>
> Perhaps a much simpler approach could be to integrate individual tools
> for very particular tasks and (with time) build more tools using a
> bottom-up approach. Another aproach could be to run Trac on Jython and
> reuse many BPEL | BA | BI | BR libs written for J and so on. There are
> a few of them being FOSS.
>
> OTOH the only useful way I see to integrate both approaches is to use
> XmlRpcPlugin and connect Trac services using BPEL4WS -and the
> corresponding BPMN «extensions»- but in that case you'll possibly end
> up maintaining at least two workflows, and two (maybe more :-/ )
> notification channels (especially if using an human-centric approach,
> unless you find a way, that I dont know right now, to integrate one of
> Trac's notification plugins with the BPMS in use, or write your own so
> that Trac be able to interact with the workflow engine of your
> particular BPMS directly -perhaps using web services, there are some
> workflow engines that may act as WS providers- ).
>
> BTW, the best choice I've found for BPMS FOSS seems to be Intalio, but
> it has a very particular license.
>
> However I'd like to see the day when Trac be much more integrated with
> BPMS systems :)
>
> And, of course, If anybody finds a better answer, pls I wanna know ;o)
>
> Anyway CMIIW if my assumption is not correct.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Olemis.
>
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