You create the new tables once in a DB upgrade (which requires admin access,
but so does installing the plugin anyway), you can then write to them as
much as you want. Not sure what the question is, this is standard SQL
practice.

 

--Noah

 

From: Vishal [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 2:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Noah Kantrowitz
Subject: Re: [Trac] regarding new database tables and safety

 

 

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Noah Kantrowitz <[email protected]> wrote:


On Feb 8, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Vishal wrote:

Hi,

I would like to add some extra data to the trac installation I have,
and for this I may need to add extra tables to the database being
used. Since the database schema will change from the default one, i
would like to know under what situations will a trac database update
be required (as done by using the upgrade command from trad-admin)?
Also, if there is no way to avoid the upgrade, is there a way to do
this seamlessly, so a user does not know about it.

 

My snippet for doing this is
http://trac-hacks.org/browser/tracforgeplugin/0.11/tracforge/admin/api.py#L6
9

http://trac-hacks.org/browser/tracforgeplugin/0.11/tracforge/admin/db_defaul
t.py shows how I setup my schema.

As for making it transparent, no, Trac doesn't work that way. This is
primarily for safety reasons. DDL changes (like changing tables) generally
can't be rolled back as part of a transaction if the upgrade fails, so you
could end up with a bad DB. This is why trac-admin upgrade makes a backup
for you if possible (or requires you to state that you are okay without one
since you took a DB backup yourself).

 

An example for this situation is the client plugin. Whenever I try to
add a new client or change anything in the client custom filed, the
trac project asks me to do an upgrade. This would be sort of very
difficult for the end user, particularly since they wont have admin
permissions, but would need to to add a client nonetheless.

 

I don't know what the client plugin is doing, but changing custom fields
doesn't require a DB change, it doesn't even require a server restart.


--Noah

 

Yes I agree that custom tickets and their options etc, donot even require a
server restart.

 

Actually here is the issue, I would like add some custom ticket entries of
'select' type. The options in this case could well be in hundreds. I was
thinking, if it would be possible to store these in the db, instead of the
INI.

 

I am in the process of creating a customer database to be used with the
issue tracking done in TRAC, and we would like to create a release
management system as well.

Do bring realease management, customer management and issue management into
a customized whole, it seems proper that we might have to add new tables to
the db.

 

If the upgrade is unavoidable, it would mean, we'll have to make sure the
admin adds new stuff to these tables.

 

Guess I am unclear about how one can write to new tables and avoid upgrades.

 

s

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