On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 2:43:36 PM UTC+2, RjOllos wrote:

> A few of us had a brief email exchange with the trac-hacks server admin 
> about the site being down. He is currently on vacation and can't do 
> anything to bring the server online until August 27th when he'll be able to 
> get onsite and fix the issue.
> At that point, we'll be discussing what can be done in the future to avoid 
> a situation like this again. I'm not sure if that might include alernative 
> hosting for trac-hacks.
>

Server/service downtime is just an unavoidable aspect og hosting, and no 
doubt there will be pros and cons regardless of what we do. No guarantees. 
Mike & helpers have done a terrific job keeping it running for many years, 
but ironically that change was also partly due to an extended blackout 
during a personal holiday... Hardware, networks, software, companies and 
people cannot always work. Particularly remembering that everything around 
Trac is based on voluntary labour and run on shoestring budgets.

However; to add to the possible options for Trac-Hacks, I would like to 
propose moving it to the Edgewall infrastructure. There we can manage it in 
much the same way as we do for the other projects - including Trac, Genshi 
and Babel. Current maintainers are welcome to continue their efforts there, 
but will additionally be able to also utilize others if needed.

I have had a brief initial exchange with Jonas, Christian and Remy about 
this, and they are all positive to the idea of bringing the Hacks/Plugins 
site closer to the Trac project itself. Plugins are important for nearly 
all Trac installations, and judging by the level of plugin-related tickets 
and mailing list discussions it is quite clear that most users regard it as 
two sides of the same coin. Keeping the projects closer together, we as 
developers are more likely to remember this as well.

Additionally Trac-Hacks poses some interesting challenges and possibilities 
with regards to its extensive multiproject/multiproject aspects, so perhaps 
this will also be a great opportunity to re-think and improve some of the 
site features - hopefully done by improving Trac itself whenever feasible. 
I know this thought process is started already, so I look forward to 
reading though these ideas again - as soon as the wiki is back up again ;-) 



:::simon


https://www.coderesort.com/u/simon 

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