anatoly techtonik writes: > And FWIW, I already have commit access for Roundup.
Then I don't understand the tone of your post to tracker-discuss at all. You have the itch, you should scratch it, and you have the access to do that (the Python tracker code is public and I assume appropriately licensed). If you're trying but need help, why not say "I need help"? If you're not trying to do that, why don't those principles apply to you? The Python developers are all quite aware of the benefits of contributing back upstream. Therefore *I* infer that contributing back to Roundup was not as simple as requesting and exercising commit access. I wonder why you don't make the same inference, or perhaps communicate that awareness in your posts if you have made it? > If you don't want b.p.o to be the place where people communicate > and coordinate in a human way, then I bet you'd more comfortable > using Excel for your own tasks, so thanks for caring about > independence of Roundup from Python hackers. b.p.o is already a place where humans communicate in human ways. What else could it be? I suppose there could be more efficient or more pleasant ways of communicating, or more similar to the way people communicate in daily life, but the suggestions you've made in the past (e.g., voting on bugs) have never struck me as ways to make Python *development* more pleasant or more efficient (both personal opinions, but that is sufficient reason to refrain from supporting a suggestion). I can see where some people might *enjoy* having those features; but (to repeat), I don't see a benefit to the development process to outweigh the cost of providing, maintaining, and using them. It would seem from the reaction of the tracker maintainers (they rarely, if ever, take up your suggestions) that you have not succeeded in convincing them of the benefits of those suggestions, either. > Am I angry at you accusing me of something that is not true, I'm not accusing you of something that is not true. I am telling you what your words mean to me. Note the first six words you quoted: > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 2:41 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull > <step...@xemacs.org>wrote: > > As far as I can tell, you're suggesting that Python should take > > over and/or try to dictate to another established project. As a participant in Python mailing lists, my duty is to read your *words*, not your mind. If it were just me, you could (and perhaps should) ignore me. But AFAICT I'm giving voice to opinions held by many on Python lists. If they're based on misunderstanding, it's your place to correct that misunderstanding, or, better, avoid causing it in the first place. _______________________________________________ Tracker-discuss mailing list Tracker-discuss@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tracker-discuss