A shorter answer:  It is WAD (Working As Designed).

Local fill-in digis should only react to WIDE1-1
Higher digis will react to any WIDEn-N including WIDE1-1.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

PS.  I've always wondered why it's WIDEn-N instead of WIDEN-n since the 
number before the dash should be greater than or equal to the number 
after the dash, but then I guess it would be hard to tell the difference 
between WIDEN-n (WIDEN with an -SSID of n) and WIDEN-n (the WIDE alias 
level N with n hops left, expressed correctly as WIDEn-N).

James Ewen wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:30 AM,
> usna71<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Hello, I am running a T2-135 and am a bit concerned about our local network.
>>  My path is WIDE1-1, WIDE2-1 and my mobile call is KB1MOV-1 and I am
>> seeing the following from our local very high digi, W1UWS
>>  It seems to me that W1UWS is responding on WIDE1?  Is that true?
>>  Should it be?  I think he has a Kantronics.  I just don't know how to read 
>> the
>> paths from aprs.fi.  Can you help me?
>>
>>  2009-08-31 10:20:05 EDT: 
>> KB1MOV-1>APOT2A,W1UWS,WIDE1,KA2QYE-10,WIDE2*,qAR,N2QDK-1:/141958h4341.68N/07216.83W>000/000/A=000602
>>  HDOP01.2 SATS06 P1 Good Fix
>>
>>  2009-08-31 10:21:36 EDT: 
>> KB1MOV-1>APOT2A,W1UWS*,WIDE1*,KQ1L-1*,WIDE2*,qAR,N1JOV-9:/142131h4341.68N/07216.82W>000/000/A=000516
>>  HDOP01.6 SATS06 P1 Good Fix
>>     
>
> Slow down there Henny Penny! 8) Your sky is not falling!
>
> The APRS digipeater have always been set up to act upon both the
> "RELAY" and "WIDE" style aliases. I emphasize these generic names, as
> they are not actual aliases in use anymore.
>
> All high digipeaters need to be able to act upon the usual WIDEn-N
> alias, of which WIDE1-1 is a subset. Fill-in digipeaters which are
> designed to help low powered stations into the main digipeaters should
> only act upon WIDE1-1.
>
> When you are running a path of WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1 from your low powered
> handheld/mobile station, you are asking for 2 hops, with the option of
> having the first hop going through a fill-in digipeater. If you are
> within range of a high main digipeater, then your first hop will be
> through that main digi.
>
> There's no need to have fill-in digipeaters inside the footprint of a
> strong main digi, just to handle the WIDE1-1 path elements. The whole
> reason behind using the somewhat confusing WIDE1-1 alias for fill-in
> digipeaters is so that the main digipeaters WILL act upon that element
> using the same anti-duping routine that the usual WIDE2-2 or WIDE3-3
> path elements activate.
>
> The use of WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1 as a "normal" path request is a work around
> to get the main digipeaters to give 2 hops, one when the WIDE1-1 is
> acted upon, and a second when the WIDE2-1 is acted upon. It is
> functionally equivalent to WIDE2-2 as far as the main digipeaters are
> concerned. The explicit WIDE1-1 element allows fill-in digipeaters to
> boost only on the first path element. If we ran WIDE1-1,WIDE1-1 as an
> outgoing path, then you could end up activating 2 fill-in digipeaters
> in a row, 2 main digipeaters in a row, a fill-in digipeater then
> maindigipeater, or a main digipeater then fill-in digipeater.
>
> There is a method to the madness!
>
> James
> VE6SRV
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