Reinier Balt wrote:
I agree, the top bar gets filled.
My first reaction would have been that we have much space on the right
that we can use but after checking, some pages make use of that area
heavily
eg starred, feeds, tickler, home. and i like the little overviews they
put there, so we should'n touch that.
I agree. I personally use the right side bar to quickly navigate to active
Project, so I do not specifically need a Projects link as a first level
menu item, I'm fine with Manage->Projects
We could maybe do a topbar with 'main categories' and 'sub items', and
the sub-item links that are shown are dependent on the main category
you're in.
Do you mean sub menus?
No, what I mean is basically two horizontal rows of links, one above the
other.
The top row contains the main sections (can be designed as tabs for
instance)
The 2nd row is a row containing the subitems, belonging to the main
category. So when you go to another main category in the first row,
another set of items is shown in the 2nd row
For example the design of http://en.netlog.com/ demonstrates this
(beware, when you are not logged in there, only the "Explore" main
category will show a set of subitems)
* search : personally i would just keep it simple and add the search
form directly underneath the #minilinks block. The icon can be re-
added
later if we ever have an 'advanced search' feature.
If we cleanup the menubar, there will be room for a search text field.
The lack of room was one of the arguments why people did not like
a search text box in the menu bar
Oh.. Never had that issue as my screen is 1680 wide.
I just checked and indeed, only at about 1280 pixels with enough space
appears for a search form. Most people don't have this or higher widths
so okay... (unless we can free up space by re-organizing the menu)
* recurring actions : recurring actions are closely related to normal
actions, I think we need 1 action manager, and inside that we should be
able to make it recurrent or not
Would be nice to reach that point, but until use cases are more clear
I think we will needs recurring actions (although I think we should
rename it to 'recurring patterns', but that is another topic)
OK
* feeds & stats: lets definitely keep the icons. these are special
pages
(just like advanced search)
Why the icons and not put them in a submenu? Or do you mean both?
No not both, that only leads to confusion. It's just that 3 icons is
about as wide as 1 'main category' (link in menu). We should definitely
try to organize stuff in a logical manner but if we have a select few
items that would take as much space if we would put them as icons or in
a new category then i would go for the icons, because they are
easier/faster to reach then having to navigate to a submenu.
Of course this assumes that
1) There are only a select few icons (or we have enough space). ( imo
icons should be feeds, stats, starred. see my previous mail)
2) The (pages belonging to the) icons form a separate group, and we
don't feel that they really belong in any of the other main categories.
For now I think that both assumptions are fulfilled, but depending on
the amount of new features that will be added, these assumptions might
become untrue. When that becomes the case, I'm fine with getting rid of
the icons and 'hiding them' in subcategories.
* starred: this is just 'home' but with a filter for the tag starred.
fine like it is for me.
I was thinking that people need to have quick access to their starred
actions. If
this I'm wrong here, we could place Starred in a submenu
I think it's fine like it is. Easily reachable, and doesn't take much
space as an icon.
-> So i would keep most of the icons like they are. they don't need
much
space anyway.
I'd like to find consistency in the menu bar if we change it. So why keep
the icons and move Contexts to a submenu? Let's rethink what needs to
be accessed quickly and what is ok to put in submenus
i don't think there is anything wrong with having a menu (with main and
subcategories) and also having icons, per se. As long as the icons do
not really belong in any of the main categories we will have (see
above). Starred/feeds/stats are 'special' things :)
btw, you can try tracks with my suggestion for the main menu
on http://github.com/lrbalt/tracks/tree/newmenu
Reinier
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