I don't think the current mobile view is throw-away (yet). Looking at the
tickets and the forum messages, the mobile view is widely used. We also have
a gmail widget that uses the mobile view. Not everybody is using an iphone
or android :-)

 

What is the target of jquery for mobile devices? Is js support common
nowadays?  I'm no expert here.

 

I like your strategy for the next mobile interface. Reuse as much as
possible from the regular interface.

 

Reinier

 

Van: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] Namens Eric Allen
Verzonden: maandag 22 maart 2010 14:53
Aan: Tim Madden
CC: track-discuss
Onderwerp: [Tracks-discuss] Re: Future of the "mobile" interface

 

Tim,

I totally agree with you. I've found myself using the desktop Tracks
interface on my iPhone for everything but adding tasks. That's even on a
crappy 2G wireless connection.  I've wanted to do something with the mobile
interface at some point, but I haven't found the time to make it happen. I'm
happy to do what I can to support you on bringing a better mobile interface
to fruition.

 

As for how to get there, I think the current mobile interface is probably
throw-away if we want a real, rich, mobile interface. I'd take the desktop
interface and throw some stylesheets at it to avoid forking code as much as
possible. This could be our chance to get real graceful degradation in all
of Tracks, not just the mobile interface. Now that I've cleaned up the
JavaScript code (and put it all in application.js), the way is open to fix
up a lot of the view templates, and in doing so we should be able to isolate
things into partials such that the mobile interface is just a re-combination
of those same partials with a different set of JavaScript and CSS. I'd be
interested in going through the view layer with you over Skype or something
to see how feasible this is.

 

I'm excited!

 

-Eric

On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Tim Madden <[email protected]> wrote:

I wanted to start a discussion about the future of our mobile interface with
the group and solicit some feedback.

First, the mobile version is a great asset to have.  The interface is super
lightweight, clean and works universally (more or less). However, the
mobiles that are in the pockets of many tracks users today, likely most,
have browsers capable of much more.  Every "smartphone" and many
non-"smartphones" support some level of javascript.  However, if you visit
the mainline tracks interface on your smartphone, the experience is
comprised.  I happen to use a blackberry (and we used to have an ipod touch,
but the kids fried it) and it works but much of the javascript goodies are
lost and this actually limits the interface's usefulness.  For example,
autocomplete and javascript powered drop down menus among others (at least
on my blackberry) do not work.

So my thought is we need some happy medium between the two.  Something with
some basic javascript for things like ticking off completed actions while
respecting the expected screen resolution of ~320px wide.  It should avoid
drop down menus and the add and edit form probably need to be left to a
separate page instead of region of the page or an overlay on the existing
page.

The question I have is what path offers the least resistance to achieve this
goal? (We must be realistic. This is an open source project after all. We
may have big dreams, but we also have small time budgets to contribute!)
One path would be to take the existing mobile interface and layer in some of
the important javascript goodness we want... Alternatively, we could clone
the rich interface and dumb down the javascript to the essentials and slim
the width of the interface to an arbitrary goal ( say 320px)? Maybe there
are tools to use I am unaware of??  

Let me know if you have input on the idea.  I am willing to take a run at a
development branch, but wanted to gather some opinion first,

Thanks, Tim  

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