Hi, 
   I edit a file on a remote machine using the filename
   /[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/user/file1.el

   and then I need to edit another file on the same machine but this
   time as root (a config file say) and I do 
   /[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/apache/httpd.conf

   It fetches the second file in a read-only buffer and I can't edit
   it. If I toggle the read-only flag and try to save it, Emacs tries
   to chmod the remote file and messes up. 

   I don't think it's a problem with my ssh setup since if the first
   file I edit is as root, then it works. 

   The problem seems to be that the user doesn't change the second
   time. 

   Thanks. 
--bug report follows this line--




Emacs  : GNU Emacs 21.3.1 (i386-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit)
 of 2003-11-01 on raven, modified by Debian
Package: tramp (2.0.38)

current state:
==============
(setq
 tramp-ls-command nil
 tramp-test-groks-nt nil
 tramp-file-exists-command nil
 tramp-current-multi-method nil
 tramp-current-method nil
 tramp-current-user nil
 tramp-current-host nil
 tramp-auto-save-directory "/var/tmp/emacs.autosave"
 tramp-default-method "scp"
 tramp-rsh-end-of-line "\n"
 tramp-default-password-end-of-line "\n"
 tramp-remote-path '("/bin" "/usr/bin" "/usr/sbin" "/usr/local/bin" "/usr/ccs/bin" 
"/local/bin" "/local/freeware/bin" "/local/gnu/bin"
                     "/usr/freeware/bin" "/usr/pkg/bin" "/usr/contrib/bin")
 tramp-login-prompt-regexp ".*ogin: *"
 tramp-password-prompt-regexp "^.*\\([pP]assword\\|passphrase.*\\):
 tramp-wrong-passwd-regexp "^.*\\(Connection \\(?:\\(?:clo\\|refu\\)sed\\)\\|Host key 
verification failed\\.\\|Login \\(?:[Ii]ncorrect\\)\\|Name or service not 
known\\|\\(?:Permission denied\\|Sorry, try again\\)\\.\\).*\\|^.*\\(Received signal 
[0-9]+\\).*"
 tramp-yesno-prompt-regexp "\\(Are you sure you want to continue connecting 
(yes/no)\\?\\)\\s-*"
 tramp-yn-prompt-regexp "\\(Store key in cache\\? (y/n)\\)\\s-*"
 tramp-temp-name-prefix "tramp."
 tramp-file-name-structure '("^/\\(\\([a-zA-Z_0-9-]+\\):\\)?\\(\\([^:@/         
]*\\)@\\)?\\([a-zA-Z0-9_.#-]*\\):\\(.*$\\)" 2 4 5 6)
 tramp-file-name-regexp "\\`/[^/:]+:"
 tramp-multi-file-name-structure 
'("^/\\(\\([a-zA-Z_0-9-]+\\)\\)?\\(\\(:%s\\)+\\)?:\\(.*$\\)" 2 3 -1)
 tramp-multi-file-name-hop-structure '("\\([a-zA-Z_0-9-]+\\):\\([^:@/   
]*\\)@\\([a-zA-Z0-9_.#-]*\\)" 1 2 3)
 tramp-multi-methods '("multi" "multiu")
 tramp-multi-connection-function-alist '(("telnet" tramp-multi-connect-telnet "telnet 
%h%n") ("rsh" tramp-multi-connect-rlogin "rsh %h -l %u%n")
                                         ("remsh" tramp-multi-connect-rlogin "remsh %h 
-l %u%n") ("ssh" tramp-multi-connect-rlogin "ssh %h -l %u%n")
                                         ("ssht" tramp-multi-connect-rlogin "ssh %h -e 
none -t -t -l %u%n") ("su" tramp-multi-connect-su "su - %u%n")
                                         ("sudo" tramp-multi-connect-su "sudo -u %u -s 
-p Password:%n"))
 tramp-methods '(("smb") ("ftp")
                 ("rcp" (tramp-connection-function tramp-open-connection-rsh) 
(tramp-login-program "rsh") (tramp-copy-program "rcp")
                  (tramp-remote-sh "/bin/sh") (tramp-login-args nil) (tramp-copy-args 
nil) (tramp-copy-keep-date-arg "-p")
                  (tramp-password-end-of-line nil))
                 ("scp" (tramp-connection-function tramp-open-connection-rsh) 
(tramp-login-program "ssh") (tramp-copy-program "scp")
                  (tramp-remote-sh "/bin/sh") (tramp-login-args ("-e" "none")) 
(tramp-copy-args nil) (tramp-copy-keep-date-arg "-p")
                  (tramp-password-end-of-line nil))
                 ("scp1" (tramp-connection-function tramp-open-connection-rsh) 
(tramp-login-program "ssh") (tramp-copy-program "scp")
                  (tramp-remote-sh "/bin/sh") (tramp-login-args ("-1" "-e" "none")) 
(tramp-copy-args ("-1")) (tramp-copy-keep-date-arg "-p")
                  (tramp-password-end-of-line nil))
                 ("scp2" (tramp-connection-function tramp-open-connection-rsh) 
(tramp-login-program "ssh") (tramp-copy-program "scp")
                  (tramp-remote-sh "/bin/sh") (tramp-login-args ("-2" "-e" "none")) 
(tramp-copy-args ("-2")) (tramp-copy-keep-date-arg "-p")
                  (tramp-password-end-of-line nil))
                 ("scp1_old" (tramp-connection-function tramp-open-connection-rsh) 
(tramp-login-program "ssh1") (tramp-copy-program "scp1")
                  (tramp-remote-sh "/bin/sh") (tramp-login-args ("-e" "none")) 
(tramp-copy-args nil) (tramp-copy-keep-date-arg "-p")
                  (tramp-password-end-of-line nil))
                 ("scp2_old" (tramp-connection-function tramp-open-connection-rsh) 
(tramp-login-program "ssh2") (tramp-copy-program "scp2")
                  (tramp-remote-sh "/bin/sh") (tramp-login-args ("-e" "none")) 
(tramp-copy-args nil) (tramp-copy-keep-date-arg "-p")
                  (tramp-password-end-of-line nil))
                 ("rsync" (tramp-connection-function tramp-open-connection-rsh) 
(tramp-login-program "ssh") (tramp-copy-program "rsync")
                  (tramp-remote-sh "/bin/sh") (tramp-login-args ("-e" "none")) 
(tramp-copy-args ("-e" "ssh")) (tramp-copy-keep-date-arg "-t")
                  (tramp-password-end-of-line nil))
                 ("remcp" (tramp-connection-function tramp-open-connection-rsh) 
(tramp-login-program "remsh") (tramp-copy-program "rcp")
                  (tramp-remote-sh "/bin/sh") (tramp-login-args nil) (tramp-copy-args 
nil) (tramp-copy-keep-date-arg "-p")
                  (tramp-password-end-of-line nil))
                 ("rsh" (tramp-connection-function tramp-open-connection-rsh) 
(tramp-login-program "rsh") (tramp-copy-program nil)
                  (tramp-remote-sh "/bin/sh") (tramp-login-args nil) (tramp-copy-args 
nil) (tramp-copy-keep-date-arg nil)
                  (tramp-password-end-of-line nil))
                 ("ssh" (tramp-connection-function tramp-open-connection-rsh) 
(tramp-login-program "ssh") (tramp-copy-program nil)
                  (tramp-remote-sh "/bin/sh") (tramp-login-args ("-e" "none")) 
(tramp-copy-args nil) (tramp-copy-keep-date-arg nil)
                  (tramp-password-end-of-line nil))
                 ("ssh1" (tramp-connection-function tramp-open-connection-rsh) 
(tramp-login-program "ssh") (tramp-copy-program nil)
                  (tramp-remote-sh "/bin/sh") (tramp-login-args ("-1" "-e" "none")) 
(tramp-copy-args ("-1")) (tramp-copy-keep-date-arg nil)
                  (tramp-password-end-of-line nil))
                 ("ssh2" (tramp-connection-function tramp-open-connection-rsh) 
(tramp-login-program "ssh") (tramp-copy-program nil)
                  (tramp-remote-sh "/bin/sh") (tramp-login-args ("-2" "-e" "none")) 
(tramp-copy-args ("-2")) (tramp-copy-keep-date-arg nil)
                  (tramp-password-end-of-line nil))
                 ("ssh1_old" (tramp-connection-function tramp-open-connection-rsh) 
(tramp-login-program "ssh1") (tramp-copy-program nil)
                  (tramp-remote-sh "/bin/sh") (tramp-login-args ("-e" "none")) 
(tramp-copy-args nil) (tramp-copy-keep-date-arg nil)
                  (tramp-password-end-of-line nil))
                 ("ssh2_old" (tramp-connection-function tramp-open-connection-rsh) 
(tramp-login-program "ssh2") (tramp-copy-program nil)
                  (tramp-remote-sh "/bin/sh") (tramp-login-args ("-e" "none")) 
(tramp-copy-args nil) (tramp-copy-keep-date-arg nil)
                  (tramp-password-end-of-line nil))
                 ("remsh" (tramp-connection-function tramp-open-connection-rsh) 
(tramp-login-program "remsh") (tramp-copy-program nil)
                  (tramp-remote-sh "/bin/sh") (tramp-login-args nil) (tramp-copy-args 
nil) (tramp-copy-keep-date-arg nil)
                  (tramp-password-end-of-line nil))
                 ("telnet" (tramp-connection-function tramp-open-connection-telnet) 
(tramp-login-program "telnet") (tramp-copy-program nil)
                  (tramp-remote-sh "/bin/sh") (tramp-login-args nil) (tramp-copy-args 
nil) (tramp-copy-keep-date-arg nil)
                  (tramp-password-end-of-line nil))
                 ("su" (tramp-connection-function tramp-open-connection-su) 
(tramp-login-program "su") (tramp-copy-program nil)
                  (tramp-remote-sh "/bin/sh") (tramp-login-args ("-" "%u")) 
(tramp-copy-args nil) (tramp-copy-keep-date-arg nil)
                  (tramp-password-end-of-line nil))
                 ("sudo" (tramp-connection-function tramp-open-connection-su) 
(tramp-login-program "sudo") (tramp-copy-program nil)
                  (tramp-remote-sh "/bin/sh") (tramp-login-args ("-u" "%u" "-s" "-p" 
"Password:")) (tramp-copy-args nil) (tramp-copy-keep-date-arg nil)
                  (tramp-password-end-of-line nil))
                 ("multi" (tramp-connection-function tramp-open-connection-multi) 
(tramp-login-program nil) (tramp-copy-program nil)
                  (tramp-remote-sh "/bin/sh") (tramp-login-args nil) (tramp-copy-args 
nil) (tramp-copy-keep-date-arg nil)
                  (tramp-password-end-of-line nil))
                 ("scpx" (tramp-connection-function tramp-open-connection-rsh) 
(tramp-login-program "ssh") (tramp-copy-program "scp")
                  (tramp-remote-sh "/bin/sh") (tramp-login-args ("-e" "none" "-t" "-t" 
"/bin/sh")) (tramp-copy-args nil) (tramp-copy-keep-date-arg "-p")
                  (tramp-password-end-of-line nil))
                 ("sshx" (tramp-connection-function tramp-open-connection-rsh) 
(tramp-login-program "ssh") (tramp-copy-program nil)
                  (tramp-remote-sh "/bin/sh") (tramp-login-args ("-e" "none" "-t" "-t" 
"/bin/sh")) (tramp-copy-args nil) (tramp-copy-keep-date-arg nil)
                  (tramp-password-end-of-line nil))
                 ("krlogin" (tramp-connection-function tramp-open-connection-rsh) 
(tramp-login-program "krlogin") (tramp-copy-program nil)
                  (tramp-remote-sh "/bin/sh") (tramp-login-args ("-x")) 
(tramp-copy-args nil) (tramp-copy-keep-date-arg nil)
                  (tramp-password-end-of-line nil))
                 ("plink" (tramp-connection-function tramp-open-connection-rsh) 
(tramp-login-program "plink") (tramp-copy-program nil)
                  (tramp-remote-sh "/bin/sh") (tramp-login-args ("-ssh")) 
(tramp-copy-args nil) (tramp-copy-keep-date-arg nil)
                  (tramp-password-end-of-line "xy"))
                 ("plink1" (tramp-connection-function tramp-open-connection-rsh) 
(tramp-login-program "plink") (tramp-copy-program nil)
                  (tramp-remote-sh "/bin/sh") (tramp-login-args ("-1" "-ssh")) 
(tramp-copy-args nil) (tramp-copy-keep-date-arg nil)
                  (tramp-password-end-of-line "xy"))
                 ("pscp" (tramp-connection-function tramp-open-connection-rsh) 
(tramp-login-program "plink") (tramp-copy-program "pscp")
                  (tramp-remote-sh "/bin/sh") (tramp-login-args ("-ssh")) 
(tramp-copy-args nil) (tramp-copy-keep-date-arg "-p")
                  (tramp-password-end-of-line "xy"))
                 ("fcp" (tramp-connection-function tramp-open-connection-rsh) 
(tramp-login-program "fsh") (tramp-copy-program "fcp")
                  (tramp-remote-sh "/bin/sh -i") (tramp-login-args ("sh" "-i")) 
(tramp-copy-args nil) (tramp-copy-keep-date-arg "-p")
                  (tramp-password-end-of-line nil))
                 )
 tramp-end-of-output "///16de53e717931416e6e2efb45d85c7cc"
 tramp-coding-commands '(("mimencode -b" "mimencode -u -b" base64-encode-region 
base64-decode-region)
                         ("mmencode -b" "mmencode -u -b" base64-encode-region 
base64-decode-region)
                         ("recode data..base64" "recode base64..data" 
base64-encode-region base64-decode-region)
                         ("uuencode xxx" "uudecode -o -" tramp-uuencode-region 
uudecode-decode-region)
                         ("uuencode xxx" "uudecode -p" tramp-uuencode-region 
uudecode-decode-region)
                         ("uuencode xxx" "tramp_uudecode" tramp-uuencode-region 
uudecode-decode-region)
                         ("tramp_encode_with_module" "tramp_decode_with_module" 
base64-encode-region base64-decode-region)
                         ("tramp_encode" "tramp_decode" base64-encode-region 
base64-decode-region))
 tramp-actions-before-shell '((tramp-password-prompt-regexp tramp-action-password) 
(tramp-login-prompt-regexp tramp-action-login)
                              (shell-prompt-pattern tramp-action-succeed) 
(tramp-shell-prompt-pattern tramp-action-succeed)
                              (tramp-wrong-passwd-regexp 
tramp-action-permission-denied) (tramp-yesno-prompt-regexp tramp-action-yesno)
                              (tramp-yn-prompt-regexp tramp-action-yn) 
(tramp-terminal-prompt-regexp tramp-action-terminal))
 tramp-multi-actions '((tramp-password-prompt-regexp tramp-multi-action-password) 
(tramp-login-prompt-regexp tramp-multi-action-login)
                       (shell-prompt-pattern tramp-multi-action-succeed) 
(tramp-shell-prompt-pattern tramp-multi-action-succeed)
                       (tramp-wrong-passwd-regexp 
tramp-multi-action-permission-denied))
 tramp-terminal-type "dumb"
 tramp-shell-prompt-pattern "^[^#$%>\n]*[#$%>] *\\(\\[[0-9;]*[a-zA-Z] *\\)*"
 tramp-chunksize nil
 shell-prompt-pattern "^[^#$%>\n]*[#$%>] *"
 backup-by-copying nil
 backup-by-copying-when-linked nil
 backup-by-copying-when-mismatch nil
 backup-by-copying-when-privileged-mismatch 200
 file-name-handler-alist '(("^/[^/]*$" . tramp-completion-file-name-handler) 
("\\`/[^/:]+:" . tramp-file-name-handler) ("\\`/:" . file-name-non-special))
 )


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