I just came back from vacation and saw this.  I am uncomfortable with this statement 
for several reasons.

First, if the "non-traditional" information is necessary on every vision claim, it 
should be considered claim information and not attachment information.  If it is claim 
information, it can only be submitted as part of the standard.  If it is not part of 
the standard, it cannot be submitted electronically, and providers cannot be forced to 
send it on paper or any other way.  A health plan must be able to process claims 
electronically using the standard.

Attachment information should only be used for non-routine claims.

Stanley Nachimson
Office of Information Services, CMS
410-786-6153

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Dear Group,
I'm beginning a conversation with a large commercial vision payor and I was 
planning to make the following statement to them.  I would like to know if 
it is factually correct, as written.  If I'm wrong or even "slightly off 
base" regarding any part of it, I would appreciate your comments:

"If [VISION PAYOR] requires "non-traditional-claim" information (e.g., 
specific details about the frame, lenses, coatings, spectacle-Rx, etc., 
commonly included in the doctor's "purchase order") to process/pay a claim, 
then the totality of that information plus the 837-information would 
constitute "The Claim".  Since a HIPAA-standard does not exist for the 
information normally found on a lab purchase order, it will not be legal 
after 10-16-02 for [VISION PAYOR] to receive that information 
electronically.  Information necessary for routine claim adjudication that 
cannot be placed into a standard "837 claim" or into one of the standard 
"claim attachments" (proposed by HL7 and the Claim Attachment Committee) 
will have to be sent to the vision plan or its exclusive business agent, 
via paper.  A second alternative would be for [VISION PAYOR] to adjudicate 
claims without this information."

Thanks very much for your feedback.
-Chris

Christopher J. Feahr, OD        Vision Data Standards Council
Executive Director              http://visiondatastandard.org 
Cell/Pager: 707-529-2268        [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



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