Jonathan,
 
Only valid HCPCS modifiers are allowed to be sent in the 837 in association with a 
HCPCS code.  That would eliminate your duplicates, but now it sounds like that creates 
another challenge for you, what valid HCPCS modifiers to replace the proprietary 
madifiers with.
 
Stuart

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        Stuart,
        
        Thanks for replying.  The only problem I have with your response is that there 
are codes that already exist for those combinations.
        For example:
        EM - Emergency reserve supply (for ESRD benefit only)
        EP - Service provided as part of medicaid early periodic screening diagnosis
                and treatment (EPSDT) program.
        GE - This service has been performed by a resident without the presence of
                a teaching physician under the primary care exception.
        GG - Performance and payment of a screening mammogram and diagnostic
                 mammogram on same day
        GH - Diagnostic mammogram converted from screening mammogram on
                 same day.
        GJ -  OPT OUT physician or practitioner emergency or urgent service.
        GN -  Service delivered personally by a speech-language pathologist or
                 under an outpatient speech-language pathology plan of care.
        GP -  Service delivered personally by a physical therapist or under an
                 outpatient physical therapy plan of care.
        
        How do we accommodate these "duplicate" codes?
        
        Thanks.
        
        Jon
        
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        Jon,
        
        Your first example is the correct way to send modifiers to HCPCS codes. 
        
         SV1*HC:A0090:HR*540*UN*1***1**N~
        
        There is also an example with the SV1 segment in the 837P (X098) 
Implementation Guide with a modifier on page 400.
        
        Hope this helps,
        
        Stuart Beaton
        Vice President
        Washington Publishing Company
        Co-chair X12N/TG2/WG1 (Eligibility)
        
        
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                I am part of the wnyhealthenet Consortium, LLC and we need 
clarification regarding the work that was done by Sarah Lanthier on ambulance HCPCS 
codes and modifiers.  I looked in the free stuff section of Claredi's website and did 
not find an ambulance claim WITH a modifier. So I pose this question to you.
               
                Our question is related to how the codes and modifiers should be 
represented in the 837P.
               
                Please indicate which example is correct:
               
                1.)    SV1*HC:A0090:HR*540*UN*1***1**N~
               
                2.)    SV1*HC:A0090:H :R *540*UN*1***1**N~
               
                3.)  None of the above.
               
                This is not intended to be a trick question.
                Please advise.
               
                Thanks,
               
                Jon Fox
                Co-Chair, wnyhealthenet Consortium, LLC
                Transactions Workgroup
               
               
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