Rachel - What would you consider "non-medical" codes?  The Register is
pretty clear on the medical codes, but I have not seen any definite criteria
or limitation on "non-medical".  Would this include taxonomy codes, zip
codes, -- and what else?  What are your thoughts?
D. Keith Hatch
Trigon Blue Cross Blue Shield
System Analyst - Financial Controls
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-----Original Message-----
From:   Rachel Foerster [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Subject:        RE: questions on the appropriate way to reply when there are
errors in a transaction request



Jim,
 
When and on what basis to reject is basically a business/risk decision on
the part of the receiver. However, I take the following view:
 
1. The entire interchange must pass the full X12 syntax validation. If
errors, fail and report via 997.
 
2. If interchange passes X12 syntax then apply HIPAA guide validation rules.
If a transaction within the interchange does not comply with guide, fail the
transaction and report via the 824. Keep in mind that validation also
includes validating medical and non-medical codes as being valid within the
referenced code set.
 
3. If transaction passes HIPAA guide validation, pass transaction data to
internal application and apply internal business rules. Report pass/fail
using various mechanisms, i.e., 271 response to 270, 277 response to 276,
and so on.
 
But that's just one person's viewpoint.
 
Rachel
Rachel Foerster
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        -----Original Message-----
        From: Jim Moores [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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        Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 7:55 AM
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areerrors in a transaction request
        
        


        Hi Rachel,
         
          I agree.  However, do you just reject the one claim in error or do
you just reject the entire batch of claims in the transmission (assuming
that you have gotten other transactions in the transmission)  or do you
reject the entire transmission?  In some cases, I think that the entire
transmission is appropriate... like when the loop structure is so corrupt
that you can't parse it.  But, what about the area between that and the
perfect transmission?
         
         
         
        Jim Moores - HIPAA Team Leader - Privacy
        Antares Management Solutions
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        Beachwood, Ohio   44122-5832
         
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        Connie,
        
        If the incoming transactions contains X12 standards syntax errors it
must be
        rejected. The correct way to report this rejection is via the 997
Functional
        Acknowledgment transaction.
        
        Rachel Foerster
        Principal
        Rachel Foerster & Associates, Ltd.
        Professionals in EDI & Electronic Commerce
        39432 North Avenue
        Beach Park, IL 60099
        Phone: 847-872-8070
        Fax: 847-872-6860
        http:/www.rfa-edi.com
        
        
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Connie Lagneaux [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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        Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:06 PM
        To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
        Subject: questions on the appropriate way to reply when there are
errors
        in a transaction request
        
        
        
        1. If there are actual syntax errors in an incoming X12, what
exactly is the
        correct way to respond? By this I mean it is not a valid X12 at all.
We
        are unclear as to whether it is appropriate to respond with a 997 vs
        something, for example, in a 271 or 277).
        
        2. If there are "logical" errors in an incoming X12, what exactly is
the
        correct response? By this I mean it is a valid X12 but it does not
meet the
        HiPAA specs.
        Examples:
        If 276 - IG 54, 98 - is not set to the code "PR" for payor but to
something
        else, what do we do? (if we would be receiving requests only from
payors)  A
        997 response?
        If 276 - IG 67, 98 - is not set to "1P" for provider but to
something else,
        what do we do?  (if we are only expecting 1P) A 997?
        
        3. If there are "business" errors in an incoming X12, what exactly
is our
        response? By this I mean that the request is both a valid X12 and a
valid
        HIPAA transaction but contains other errors.
        Examples would be an unknown information source (payor), and unknown
        provider, etc. Also I think this would include issues like the
dependent
        given is not a dependent of the given subscriber.
        
        It appears that each level of a 271 has request validation segments
/ reject
        reason codes in the 270 request.  Are these codes used for business
errors
        while a 997 is used for other errors? Since the 277 lacks these
codes, are
        all errors handled using 997s? If so doesn't this stop all further
        processing of the 276 transactions in the transmissions?
        
        
        <<...OLE_Obj...>>
                Connie Lagneaux, RN, BSN, MBA
        Senior Business Analyst
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