That makes sense... I'll be honest though that'm hesitant to use it in something like a banner where we're also asking for translations from those who see the banner (through the translate link, though I will probably remove that from anonymous and mobile views). Asking people to play with the time parser codes just seems like going a bit too far away from what I can expect for a casual translator.
James Alexander Legal and Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Jon Harald Søby <[email protected]> wrote: > The {{#time:}} ParserFunction: > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions#.23time > > Tell translators in the description to fill in whatever code from that > list is correct in their language. So for English it'll be "j F Y", for > Norwegian "j. F Y", for Farsi "xij xiF xiY" (I think). And then in the code > it'll be just {{#time:j F Y|2014-06-06}}, and you tell translators to keep > the date the same, but change the codes if necessary. > > > 2014-05-06 19:43 GMT+02:00 James Alexander <[email protected]>: > > The {{formatnum:6}} makes sense, I can add that in, (as I said earlier >> I'm happy for people to change it for their own numerical system, but that >> would certainly be easier). I don't know about a good way to call the >> formate date function sadly :-/ I tried to pick the 'most' universal option >> but it certainly isn't perfect and I completely agree with you that a >> format date format would be useful. >> >> James Alexander >> Legal and Community Advocacy >> Wikimedia Foundation >> (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur >> >> >> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Philippe Verdy <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Doesn't MediaWiki offer for all Wikimedia wikis the necessary support >>> for formating dates according to user preferences or local wiki defaults >>> for signatures? >>> If so, the number 6 you want will be inappropriate in Arabic and in many >>> date formats for South Asian languages using other digits. >>> MediaWiki offers {{formatnum:6}} for this purpose, it is easy to infer >>> where it is in the translation if you intend to change it. However June is >>> also the 6th month of the year (same day number) and you may wonder which >>> field is the day part if you don't know if the date uses "d;m;y" or "m:d;y" >>> formatting order (some languages don"t really have names for Gregorian >>> dates, but append a speific suffix to numbers to indicate if this is a >>> year, month or day, such as Chinese). >>> >>> A very small script will generate the formated dates that are then easy >>> to update in translations, even if you don't want to use templates for that >>> (because templates are wiki-dependant and their name vary). >>> But things would be even easier if all wikis had a parserfunction for >>> formatting dates given a matching language code (if the format is unknown >>> for that language, just use the ISO 8601 format yyy-mm-dd which is not >>> ambiguous in all existing languages, even if it is not the most usual >>> format for that language. >>> I just hope that one day we'll have a parser function like >>> {{formatdate:2014-06-06|ymd|language-code}} that will format the date using >>> the 3 fields (not padded with zero if not needed, but not rounded to 2 >>> digits with the appropriate order, suffixes and separators, and possibly >>> their names; all in the appropriate script) >>> >>> CLDR data has this info and there's even a demo in the Unicode CLDR >>> website. >>> >>> >>> >>> 2014-05-06 2:07 GMT+02:00 James Alexander <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> The Legal team will be announcing later this week (currently planned >>>> for Wednesday) the start of a 30 day notice period that the privacy policy >>>> will be changing. This is the privacy policy that was discussed over a >>>> multi month period on wiki ( >>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Privacy_policy ) and was recently >>>> approved by the board. You can find the banner text to translate (using the >>>> translate extension) at >>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&group=Centralnotice-tgroup-PPChangeNotice2014&filter=. >>>> >>>> If possible (transliteration is fine) we want to keep the day part of >>>> the date ( 6 ) as a number so that, if the announcement date gets pushed >>>> back for some reason or another, we can adjust the official starting date >>>> without affecting the translations much. >>>> >>>> Michelle is still finishing the blog post itself but the plan is to >>>> have it available for translation as well so that over the course of the >>>> month we can get it up in as many translations as possible. >>>> >>>> If you'd prefer you can also send me the translation off list and I'm >>>> happy to insert it. The current text is: >>>> Our Privacy Policy is changing on 6 June 2014. >>>> To learn more, click here. >>>> >>>> We also have the 'close' text (shown you hover over the close button) >>>> saying: Close >>>> >>>> James Alexander >>>> Legal and Community Advocacy >>>> Wikimedia Foundation >>>> (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Translators-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Translators-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Translators-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l >> >> > > > -- > mvh > Jon Harald Søby <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by> > > _______________________________________________ > Translators-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l > >
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