Hi Sherry, many thanks!
Machine translation *into* German or English isn't available in > ContentTranslation at the moment. That's a shame - do you know what that is? Thanks, Bjoern On 17 April 2017 at 18:20, Whatamidoing (WMF)/Sherry Snyder < [email protected]> wrote: > Philippe, as the URL shows, he's using Special:ContentTranslation > (=available at all the Wikipedias and specifically designed for translating > Wikipedia articles), not Special:Translate (which is mostly used at Meta > and mediawiki.org). > > ContentTranslation offers some built-in machine translation options. > (Think "built-in translate.google.com", not the other tool's translation > memory system.) Machine translation *into* German or English isn't > available in ContentTranslation at the moment. > > As it happens, ContentTranslation does not care which language wiki you're > logged into. If you want, you can go to the Spanish Wikipedia and > translate an English Wikipedia article into German, and publish your > translation on the German Wikipedia. > > > > On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 7:19 AM Bjoern Hassler <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi Philippe, >> >> Thanks! >> >> I'm trying to translate >> >> en:Biniai Nou hypogea >> >> to new page in German (on de.wikipedia ...) >> >> Bjoern >> >> On 17 Apr 2017 12:17, "Philippe Verdy" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> You did not specify which source page are you trying to translate, and on >> which wiki.... Then we can look at the target of your translation attempt. >> >> Your provided this link: >> https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spezial: >> Inhalts%C3%BCbersetzung&page=Biniai+Nou+hypogea&from=en&to= >> de&targettitle=Biniai+Nou+hypogea >> >> But the German Wikipedia does not have any page named "Biniai Nou >> hypogea". You are probably trying to find this page on the wrong wiki ! >> Translations are made wiki by wiki, but are enabled essentially on >> multilingual wikis (such as Commons, or Meta), not on Wikipedia >> (translations of pages between separate editions of Wikipedia cannot use >> the same tools) >> >> 2017-04-17 9:26 GMT+02:00 Bjoern Hassler <[email protected]>: >> >>> Hi Philippe, >>> >>> many thanks. >>> >>> Do you mean e.g. on https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Inhalts%C3% >>> BCbersetzung ? I don't see a yellow box? There is "Von einer beliebigen >>> Sprache / In eine beliebige Sprache", but that lists English/German in both. >>> >>> In any case - are you basically saying that English <-> German could be >>> enabled? >>> >>> Many thanks! >>> Bjoern >>> >>> >>> >>> On 16 April 2017 at 21:38, Philippe Verdy <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> This is displayed in the top header (yellow box) which lsits the >>>> "proiritized" languages. Anyway there's another setting (not displayed) >>>> that disallow other translations (this was discussed recently when someone >>>> created a page to translate ONLY in minority languages, exclusing all other >>>> major languages than the source English). >>>> >>>> Experience shows that (espacially for minory languages that very few >>>> translators available, many of them not being very fluent in English) we >>>> need to always enable other languages thant English to help disambiguate >>>> the English source so that translators for minority languages can see >>>> translations proposed in other major languages and that are better >>>> reviewed, in order to provide better translations not just based on the >>>> English source but also on what they can better read and understand in >>>> another language. >>>> >>>> I must confess that I see no reason to exclude any language (except old >>>> compatibility languages whose use is no longer recommanded, and which may >>>> be configured globally, only if there's other choices of language codes: >>>> those compatibility codes will finally be redirected to new ones or locked >>>> down). >>>> >>>> And for the ~15 major languages of the world (that are used as lingua >>>> francas for regional or national interchanges) they should never be >>>> disabled (notably because they are already used as fallback languages for >>>> missing translations in minority languages). For a list of fallback >>>> languages (that should never be disabled), see for example what is >>>> implemented in Commons and MetaWiki; this is more than just English which >>>> is only the last-chance fallback ! The list of fallbacks was first >>>> implemtend as templates ,then as modules, and now as part of global wiki >>>> configuration (and part now of MediaWiki itself with its API). >>>> >>>> >>>> 2017-04-16 13:15 GMT+02:00 Bjoern Hassler <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>>> Thanks! How do I find out which language pairs are enabled? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Translators-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Translators-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l >> > -- > Sherry Snyder (WhatamIdoing) > Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation > > _______________________________________________ > Translators-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l > >
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