Hi Roger & Treg
I do not have a US spec for DTMF levels however if the -6 to -8 level is too 
low then there is a possible solution (although adding to component count).  
why not consider using a differential (or bridge) output stage on the transmit 
side amplifier?  These circuits can double the available output voltage swing.

If you cannot get it to work using two op-amps on the 3.3v supply, maybe power 
the output op-amps from + & - 3.3 v using a MAXIM (or similar) dual supply rail 
generator chip.

You can even control the output stage gain (using FET switches) so that DTMF 
level is different to Speech & data (if all originate from the same point).

Just an idea, but I do appreciate that adding components is not always 
desirable!

Regards:  Bill Ellingford


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From:   Roger Magnuson[SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent:   27 September 1999 14:57
To:     TREG
Subject:        DTMF in USA


Hello TREGgers,

According to FCC Part 68, 68.308(b)(2)(i)(A), the maximum limit for the DTMF 
signal power level
is 0 dBm.

We found that a majority of modems (at least those based on Conexant...) use a 
DTMF level
of -4/-6 dBm for the US market. These sending levels are difficult to achieve 
these days
(mainly "thanks to" 3.3V modem devices and high insertion loss of line 
transformers suitable
for 56K).

Now, to avoid the painful trial and error method I'd like to know if there is 
any published
specification (Bellcore?) that defines a recommended power level for DTMF 
signals in the US?

In your experience, would equipment with -8/-10 dBm power level operate 
correctly?

Thanks for your help.....


Roger Magnuson
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