The key is not which jukebox/library tool (musicmatch, itunes, real, WMP, etc.) you use but rather which MP3 encoder you use. Although I haven't looked at this in depth for over a year, last I checked the LAME encoder was generally accepted as the best available (although in some ways this is like trying to say which car is the best available, or which house), and while iTunes does not use this encoder "out of the box", it can be added somehow. This is probably explained at the Apple web site. Last I knew, also, this only applied to the Mac version of iTunes, and so Windows iTunes users were stuck with the less capable MP3 encoder that comes built in to iTunes (some variation of the Fraunhofer compression algorithm). I would not expect iTunes to be any better in producing quality unrestricted MP3s than any other music library tool out there, even though it is arguably one of the slickest from a UI point of view.
Anybody care to update the encoder situation? Since the Treo is a music player, it's sort of relevant! I use CDEX (free, and yes, it uses the LAME encoder) to rip CDs, and have for years. It's not as fast as those used by the big jukebox tools, but the quality is much better, if the word "quality" can be used to refer to any lossy encoding scheme.. Bottom line for me is that I've so far resisted having any music in a format that somebody else controls through some wacky licensing and control scheme. It really makes me mad to have someone else controlling what I can do with music that I BOUGHT. This position goes back, I suppose to when I made cassette recordings of all my albums. Yes, I'm old. Nobody controlled those copies, and I don't want anyone controlling copies I make now, either. The last thing I have time for is managing licenses for songs and worrying about what happens when I make my annual purchase of a new laptop and a new Palm device and move everything to the new devices. I can barely manage licenses for the software I install, let alone thousands of songs. And on the last point, I don't know if it's better, but in my experience it's certainly faster and easier to move music to the card directly rather than through the rather clunky Palm install tool!! Cheers, Don _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joel Suplido Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 11:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Treo] Re: palmone quick install / mp3s iTunes can also import songs as MP3 (128, 160, 192 kbps). Just go to Advanced>Importing>Import using MP3 encoder. I'm betting on iTunes to solve the problem ;) Also, isn't it better to use a memory card reader to copy songs directly to it? joel --- In [email protected], Mean Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Windows Media PLayer 10 can rip from Audio CDs to MP3s. > > MD. > > Sunday, September 18, 2005, 7:42:10 AM, jeff wrote: > > > On Sun, 2005-09-18 at 00:02 +0000, hablealamano wrote: > >> I've ripped the mp3s from the cd using Musicmatch Jukebox. Then I > > > try ripping the tracks with a different program. I can't say for sure, > > but some of the MMJB versions might have some sort of copy protection > > scheme going on. Check www.nonags.com for some freeware rippers. > > > The record companies have gone WAY too far, but that's a discussion for > > another day (and another groups). > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Palm <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Palm+os+database&w1=Palm+os+database&w2 =Palm+os+development+software&w3=Palm+os+development&w4=Palm+os+software&w5= Palm+os+bible&w6=Solitaire+palm+os&c=6&s=145&.sig=WPvwItckHmvTLrgyrVmtsw> os database Palm <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Palm+os+development+software&w1=Palm+os +database&w2=Palm+os+development+software&w3=Palm+os+development&w4=Palm+os+ software&w5=Palm+os+bible&w6=Solitaire+palm+os&c=6&s=145&.sig=x7Ue487lW-6uVj NQTdv9Dw> os development software Palm <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Palm+os+development&w1=Palm+os+database &w2=Palm+os+development+software&w3=Palm+os+development&w4=Palm+os+software& w5=Palm+os+bible&w6=Solitaire+palm+os&c=6&s=145&.sig=67RC7V1OgdG8798GtNzuyA> os development Palm <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Palm+os+software&w1=Palm+os+database&w2 =Palm+os+development+software&w3=Palm+os+development&w4=Palm+os+software&w5= Palm+os+bible&w6=Solitaire+palm+os&c=6&s=145&.sig=4ahHIuHuz1FtMXr_AWxR_A> os software Palm <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Palm+os+bible&w1=Palm+os+database&w2=Pa lm+os+development+software&w3=Palm+os+development&w4=Palm+os+software&w5=Pal m+os+bible&w6=Solitaire+palm+os&c=6&s=145&.sig=49HTcpcZeJf_JD_L7Xs70w> os bible Solitaire <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Solitaire+palm+os&w1=Palm+os+database&w 2=Palm+os+development+software&w3=Palm+os+development&w4=Palm+os+software&w5 =Palm+os+bible&w6=Solitaire+palm+os&c=6&s=145&.sig=ABh7kTUqDlS4s9YkttQ1dA> palm os _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "treo <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/treo> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/y2FxlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/treo/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
