Hi Bill,

I wasn’t suggesting that the new Desktop didn’t need to be installed, just
that, in my ten years’ experience with this, I’ve seen too many people get
too screwed up by just doing an upgrade in place.  Certainly the software
may have improved to the point where this isn’t a concern anymore, but I’m
not aware of it having been improved thus.  

An analogous situation would be an upgrade from Windows ME to Windows XP
Home, or from Windows 2000 to Windows XP Professional.  Certainly many
people have successfully done both of these, but one doesn’t have to look
very far to see countless problems, too.  In my experience, same goes for
Palm Desktop:  Clean install is best.  Stories of problems with an upgrade
in place from the 600 to the 650, not all caused by 3rd party software,
abounded when the 650 came out.  Maybe it’s better now, but it would be
difficult to persuade me to upgrade in place.  I'll reiterate that I keep my
data in Outlook, and don't know from experience what is needed to transfer
the PIM data in the case of a clean install from 600 to 650.  It would seem,
as well, that there are subtle differences with the software provided by the
different cellular providers.  

We should probably agree to disagree on this – I’m not going to convince
you, and you’re not going to convince me.  Others will have to decide for
themselves.  I hope they will post their successes, and failures, here, so
we can learn from their experience!!

Cheers,
Don
________________________________________
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill
Gamble
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 6:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Treo] T600 to T650

Well, of course you've got to install the new desktop, Don!  No one was 
suggesting otherwise.  It's just that it doesn't need to be as complicated 
a process as you suggest. 
______
Bill

...... Original Message .......
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:08:15 -0600 "Don Ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>Hi Bill!  Do you keep your lucky rabbit's foot around when you do that?
>It's not so much the scary 3rd party apps that scare me, although they do,
>but, rather, the scary registry and desktop incompatibilities between
>versions of the Desktop that give me the willies!!
>
> 
>
>To each his own!!  Me, I clean house each time.  Again, though, Outlook
>makes this easy.  I might reconsider if were using the Palm Desktop.
>
> 
>
>Cheers,
>
>Don
>
>  _____  
>
>From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill
>Gamble
>Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 2:53 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: [Treo] T600 to T650
>
> 
>
>Don't be frightened, Don!  That's how I've always upgraded - I'm using the 
>same user name I started with back on the Palm V (7 or 8 models later).  
If 
>the backup directory is renamed, none of those scary old 3rd party apps 
>will be installed during the first hotsync.
>______ 
>Bill
>
>...... Original Message .......
>On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:54:11 -0600 "Don Ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>wrote:
>>You're scaring me!!   What you describe might work fine, but I've seen too
>>many upgrade problems over the years to trust that.  It's more work to
>>uninstall everything and start fresh, but I wouldn't do it any other way!
>>'Course, using Outlook makes it easy, since the PIM data isn't dependent 
on
>>the Palm Desktop version.
>>
>> 
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Don
>>
>>  _____  
>>
>>From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alli
>>Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 7:30 AM
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: Re: [Treo] T600 to T650
>>
>> 
>>
>>You don't need to copy or export the pim data.  All you do is rename 
>>your backup folder and then use the same old hotsync name with the new 
>>device.
>>
>>Don Ferguson wrote:
>>> YMMV for sure.  I would strongly recommend removing ALL 600 software
from
>>> the computer and starting over clean on the 650, including upgraded
>>versions
>>> of all applications.  Think of it as spring cleaning!  If you use the 
>Palm
>>> Desktop, you'll need to either backup or export your PIM data files.  I
>>> can't remember which transitions allowed just copying the PIM data files
>>and
>>> which ones required export/import.  That's one of the reasons I like 
>using


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